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Postby sirhc55 on Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:16 pm

Ordered last Wednesday evening and arrived this morning

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Thanks to Poon for his superb service and to Gary for the means and wherefore :)
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Postby Laurie on Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:18 pm

that thing looks even more complicated than the SB800!!
far out!
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Postby Poon on Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:33 pm

Thanks Chris
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Postby Glen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:34 pm

Laurie wrote:that thing looks even more complicated than the SB800!!
far out!


Laurie, thats why it is for Digital Masters :wink:
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Postby Geoff on Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:49 pm

Very nice Chris - are you interested in doing a review on it? :)
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Postby ozimax on Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:03 pm

This is one of the most amazing pieces of equipment I have ever seen .... just one thing chief, what is it?
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Postby gstark on Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:17 pm

It's a lightmeter.

Not to be confsued with a heavymeter, or a darkmeter.

While you have one built in to your camera's body, a handheld meter offers far greater flexibility, and potentially greater accuracy.
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Postby Reschsmooth on Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:18 pm

gstark wrote:It's a lightmeter.

Not to be confsued with a heavymeter, or a darkmeter.

While you have one built in to your camera's body, a handheld meter offers far greater flexibility, and potentially greater accuracy.


And more importantly, it's another bit of gear that will make you look more "pro" - essential for when you want to increase your prices. :lol:
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Postby Glen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:23 pm

Reschsmooth wrote:And more importantly, it's another bit of gear that will make you look more "pro" - essential for when you want to increase your prices. :lol:


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Postby sirhc55 on Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:14 pm

Laurie wrote:that thing looks even more complicated than the SB800!!
far out!


Actually it’s not - looks it tho’ :D
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Postby Yi-P on Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:03 pm

Does this thing measure white balance and tell you the exact Kelvin scale you are shooting at ??

Man, I want one of these, but I will be happy with the most basic one 8)
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Postby adam on Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:10 pm

Yi-P wrote:Does this thing measure white balance and tell you the exact Kelvin scale you are shooting at ??

Man, I want one of these, but I will be happy with the most basic one 8)


I don't think so, those would be mega-more-costly! :)
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Postby marcotrov on Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:15 pm

Looks great Chris. Have fun. If i can add to the kudos for Poon. I ordered my Sigma 1.4X teleconverter last week and i got it today here in Cairns. Thank you Poon you are great :) and to you too Gary :wink:
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Postby sirhc55 on Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:18 pm

Yi-P wrote:Does this thing measure white balance and tell you the exact Kelvin scale you are shooting at ??

Man, I want one of these, but I will be happy with the most basic one 8)


You can profile your camera and feed the results into the Sekonic to give you more control over dynamic range and clipping points - all sensors are different and they age the same as a CRT 8)
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Postby adam on Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:27 pm

sirhc55 wrote:
Yi-P wrote:Does this thing measure white balance and tell you the exact Kelvin scale you are shooting at ??

Man, I want one of these, but I will be happy with the most basic one 8)


You can profile your camera and feed the results into the Sekonic to give you more control over dynamic range and clipping points - all sensors are different and they age the same as a CRT 8)


Wow! Profile your camera and feed the results into the Sekonic. That sounds very pro!! :) but is this what you need to buy the specific grey cards for? Can I do that with my L-358? I'm guessing not :(
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Postby sirhc55 on Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:17 pm

adam wrote:
sirhc55 wrote:
Yi-P wrote:Does this thing measure white balance and tell you the exact Kelvin scale you are shooting at ??

Man, I want one of these, but I will be happy with the most basic one 8)


You can profile your camera and feed the results into the Sekonic to give you more control over dynamic range and clipping points - all sensors are different and they age the same as a CRT 8)


Wow! Profile your camera and feed the results into the Sekonic. That sounds very pro!! :) but is this what you need to buy the specific grey cards for? Can I do that with my L-358? I'm guessing not :(


Sorry Adam but that feature is only available on the 758 - you use the profile card to shoot under ambient and flash light. The exposure profile test measures the sensor response under the following conditions:

Flash Incident mode (at all ISO)
Flash Reflected mode (at all ISO)
Ambient Incident mode (at all ISO)
Ambient Reflected mode (at all ISO)

Once you has assessed the grey patches in PS and reached 118G (in the green channel) plus 20 (clipping -), 245 (clipping +), 35 (dynamic -) and 230 (dynamic +) you enter the figures into the Data Transfer software which then does a calculation and then uploads to the Sekonic via USB.

Very basic description.
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Postby michael_ on Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:50 pm

gstark wrote:It's a lightmeter.

Not to be confsued with a heavymeter, or a darkmeter.

While you have one built in to your camera's body, a handheld meter offers far greater flexibility, and potentially greater accuracy.


i wanted to ask this at the workshop, would a lightmeter of been much use to us?
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Postby sirhc55 on Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:59 pm

michael_ wrote:
gstark wrote:It's a lightmeter.

Not to be confsued with a heavymeter, or a darkmeter.

While you have one built in to your camera's body, a handheld meter offers far greater flexibility, and potentially greater accuracy.


i wanted to ask this at the workshop, would a lightmeter of been much use to us?


Absolutely 8)
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Postby ozimax on Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:01 pm

sirhc55 wrote:Sorry Adam but that feature is only available on the 758 - you use the profile card to shoot under ambient and flash light. The exposure profile test measures the sensor response under the following conditions:

Flash Incident mode (at all ISO)
Flash Reflected mode (at all ISO)
Ambient Incident mode (at all ISO)
Ambient Reflected mode (at all ISO)

Once you has assessed the grey patches in PS and reached 118G (in the green channel) plus 20 (clipping -), 245 (clipping +), 35 (dynamic -) and 230 (dynamic +) you enter the figures into the Data Transfer software which then does a calculation and then uploads to the Sekonic via USB.

Very basic description.



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Postby adam on Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:23 am

sirhc55 wrote:
adam wrote:
sirhc55 wrote:
Yi-P wrote:Does this thing measure white balance and tell you the exact Kelvin scale you are shooting at ??

Man, I want one of these, but I will be happy with the most basic one 8)


You can profile your camera and feed the results into the Sekonic to give you more control over dynamic range and clipping points - all sensors are different and they age the same as a CRT 8)


Wow! Profile your camera and feed the results into the Sekonic. That sounds very pro!! :) but is this what you need to buy the specific grey cards for? Can I do that with my L-358? I'm guessing not :(


Sorry Adam but that feature is only available on the 758 - you use the profile card to shoot under ambient and flash light. The exposure profile test measures the sensor response under the following conditions:

Flash Incident mode (at all ISO)
Flash Reflected mode (at all ISO)
Ambient Incident mode (at all ISO)
Ambient Reflected mode (at all ISO)

Once you has assessed the grey patches in PS and reached 118G (in the green channel) plus 20 (clipping -), 245 (clipping +), 35 (dynamic -) and 230 (dynamic +) you enter the figures into the Data Transfer software which then does a calculation and then uploads to the Sekonic via USB.

Very basic description.


Cool! Thanks very much for taking the time to explain all that to me :D
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:23 am

I have one of these also, from the good man Poon!

love it, just love it. easy to use, dont need the radio thingo, very versatile.

interested to know if there is much to be gained in the techie "profiling".
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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:23 am

Oz_Beachside wrote:I have one of these also, from the good man Poon!

love it, just love it. easy to use, dont need the radio thingo, very versatile.

interested to know if there is much to be gained in the techie "profiling".


When I get the test cards I will post up a report. I am aware that no two sensors have the same characteristics. This implies that profiling your camera will give you an edge on its capabilities.
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