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I know that there will be an awesome Blue mountains shoot soon, but the previously planned city sunrise didn't go ahead.

Where: South Head http://www.sydney.com/town/Watsons_Bay/Sydney_Harbour_National_Park_-_South_Head/info.aspx
When: 8 Nov , Parking may be tricky. I will get more info soon.
Time: Very early, preferably 1.5 hours before sunrise; we should try and do some light painting if possible.....




We could grab some breakfast after.

So far we have attending
Gerry
Cameron
Suren

Maybe - Geoff

Sorry to be a let down again, but the 25th is the day of the Seven Bridges walk (I will be participating)...so I may/may not be game to head off for a surise beach shoot...but i do appreciate that we are planning for a sunday to accommodate for me.

I am be interested and will be watching this thread carefully.

ND filters...check, tripod check, camera (S5 Pro if the D300 is not back)

Hey Suren

I would love to do a surise shot. It's been a while since I have done one and I definately miss the 4 am hikes up mountains or trek to the beach to take photos

I am in the same boat as Cam (not co-incidentally either) going to be doing the seven bridges walk. So if another Sunday or Sat (not fussed) opens up let me know .... would be very keen

Time: Very early, preferably 1.5 hours before sunrise;

zomg, thats like 4:30am, thats the time one should be coming home on the w/e, not getting up...that weekend is not real good for me, but will only know a bit closer to the date...

Thanks Cameron, Mozzie and Gerry.

As most people have suggested a different date, how about 8th Nov?

biggerry wrote:thats like 4:30am

I think you would have some practice from this weekend Gerry.

We could do this in the evening if we are just doing some light painting only....

Using teh Web site that ATJ pointed out for me:
You haven't specified a location, so I used Bondi Beach
http://www.ga.gov.au/geodesy/astro/sunrise.jsp

BONDI BEACH Lat=-33°53'00" Long=+151°16'00"
TIMES OF SUNRISE AND SUNSET
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +11.00 hours
08/11/2009 Rise 0548 Set 1929

TIMES OF CIVIL TWILIGHT
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +11.00 hours
08/11/2009 Rise 0521 Set 1956

Greg, Thanks for this!

So we only need to get there at 0430.

Do I assume that you are attending?

Currently I should be able to do the 8th. So i'll keep an eye on this thread.

I am an unlikely participant but never say never.
I am due to start at work at 7:15am so I COULD do it, but that would make for a VERY long day.

surenj wrote:Greg, Thanks for this!

So we only need to get there at 0430.

Do I assume that you are attending?

Not B likely.

I spoke to BobG who does a lot of sunrise shoots. He says to allow 45 minutes before sunrise to allow for setting up & getting those pre sunrise colours. That's what I have allowed at Sublime Point. He also said to organise some clouds to get the colours, but didn't explain how to do that. (I guess he has to keep some trade secrets )

Note that I also supplied Civil Twilight (When it starts to get light) which is 5:21 AEDT There is also Astronomical Twilight, earlier, when the stars begin to fade. There is another in the middle, but I'll leave it as an exercise to find out about them You should also consider moonrise & phase (Last Quarter) as it affects ambient light, and possibly photo ops. That Web site will give you all this and more.

EDIT: You should change the title of the thread to reflect the new date. (To do this, edit your original post)

Mozzie thanks for the quick reply.

Geoff, the date is still flexible.... We will set the date to accomodate the most amount of people. Let me know of your preferences.

Greg, Thanks for the tips! I think the earliest civil time we can expect anyone to get there would be 0430, regardless of what time the civil sunrise is. Most will have to wake up at 0330 I suspect.

Oh yes, this will be a BYOC event. [Bring your own clouds]

I think you would have some practice from this weekend Gerry.

yeah...and I am still recovering...

Most will have to wake up at 0330 I suspect

That day is currently looking good for me....I guess i will have an interesting time getting out there (mercy!!! I am trying to learn to drive at the moment)

So Here are the list of current (& reluctant) attendees.

Gerry
Mozzie
Cameron (if he gets there in one piece)
Suren

aim54x wrote:I am trying to learn to drive at the moment)

This sort of timing would be a great time to practice your night driving skills.

surenj wrote:Cameron (if he gets there in one piece)

aim54x wrote:I am trying to learn to drive at the moment)

This sort of timing would be a great time to practice your night driving skills.

SO is this an offer to take a 'L' plater with approx 3hrs of lessons night driving??

Cameron, As long as I get driven around and you stick to the speed limits, I would be happy to supervise (aka fall asleep)

surenj wrote:Oh yes, this will be a BYOC event. [Bring your own clouds]

This is NOT a good idea. We did this and got far too many. Have a Designated Cloud Bringer.

Thanks for the tip Greg! I will be the cloud bearer. The others can bring the sun shine...

I just wanted to confirm who is attending.

So far we have tentatively
Gerry
Mozzie
Cameron
Suren

Maybe
Geoff

We haven't decided on a spot yet...
How about Watson's bay? [seems to have a view of the city at the same time]
Other usual places are Bronte or Maroubra beaches...

Are you guys keen on light painting? This would be interesting as we will need stronger lights than the car painting as there will be some ambient hanging around....

Any thoughts let me know.

surenj wrote:We haven't decided on a spot yet...
How about Watson's bay? [seems to have a view of the city at the same time]
Other usual places are Bronte or Maroubra beaches...

Are you guys keen on light painting? This would be interesting as we will need stronger lights than the car painting as there will be some ambient hanging around....

Any thoughts let me know.

Not to fussed about a spot, I will have fun getting there anyway. As for lightpainting...Defender 260....AND Gerry has his new Fenix

Boys and girls,

I just want to get a head count of who is still interested in this shoot. I have updated the original message to reflect the current attendees.

Thankx

Still Keen!

hi Suren

Sorry I am out for this one. I don't think I can quite afford the 1/2 day off from studying.

mozzie wrote:Sorry I am out for this one. I don't think I can quite afford the 1/2 day off from studying.

No problemo. I would have thought you'd miss much more than half a day. You sleep would be completely disrupted unless you are good at taking photos while you are standing + sleeping in the cold.

Cameron, thanks for the confirmation. Gerry or I can help with your transport issues.

Gerry, Can you confirm that you are still keen on this?

Geoff, did they let you off work by any chance?

Updated with map etc.

... and added to calendar on portal page

Thanks Peter.

Weather is so far so good.

Obviously we will cancel if it turns sour. Please check back on Saturday night whether we will go ahead. If it's a horrible gray day on Sunday morning, I would suggest confirming prior to heading out ....

Does anyone have a REVERSE neutral grad filter??

Here is the map of where we will meet.

At the top of the hill on pacific street, there are 13 car parks. I hope they will be free at this god forsaken hour.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=102699583228823372336.000477a96090d287285da

Weather at SMH says that there is a chance shower; whatever that means.

Watch this space.

Actually we could delay our start time....

http://www.ga.gov.au/bin/astro/sunrisenset
Sunrise & Sunset Results

SYDNEY Lat=-33°52'00" Long=+151°12'00"
TIMES OF SUNRISE AND SUNSET
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +11.00 hours
08/11/2009 Rise 0549 Set 1929


Computed using National Mapping Division's sunrisenset program, version 2.2

surenj wrote:Does anyone have a REVERSE neutral grad filter??

Just turn your normal one upside down or if you are really picky, back to front

Mr Darcy wrote:

surenj wrote:Does anyone have a REVERSE neutral grad filter??

Just turn your normal one upside down or if you are really picky, back to front

Just think of the savings! Reverse grad filter costs a bomb. Only one company seems to make them. I don't understand why they should be hundreds of dollars.

SOrry to pull out on you..but a friend is having a bday bash the night before, which means i will be out west (pretty far west) on sunday morning, which means getting out there may present a problem (grr I know I should drive). It would be nice to meet up with you guys later if your still around though. I'll drag PhotoMarcs (Marcus...new member) with me if he has not had too big a night.

No probs Cameron.

Due to popular demand, this event has been moved to the 14th Nov (Sat).

surenj wrote:No probs Cameron.

Due to popular demand, this event has been moved to the 14th Nov (Sat).

I'll try but still no gaurantee...depends on if I stay over at my friends place after her party....

Due to popular demand, this event has been moved to the 14th Nov (Sat).

awesome, i am a definite! Looking at the walk, can you get down to the rocks?

biggerry wrote:can you get down to the rocks?

Yes. It would depend on the tides which I don't have any ideas about. During the day time for example 10am the rocks are very accessible.

You make a good point. I would suggest wearing quite sturdy shoes with a good grip.

surenj wrote:

biggerry wrote:can you get down to the rocks?

Yes. It would depend on the tides which I don't have any ideas about.

Check out http://www.maritime.nsw.gov.au/docs/tide_tables.pdf

Mr Darcy wrote:Check out http://www.maritime.nsw.gov.au/docs/tide_tables.pdf

Thanks Greg, it appears that the morning would be high tide.

It's good that we cancelled today. The sky was 18% gray!

But then, 18% gray sky is not even on the list for 'failing at photography'!
http://www.lighting-essentials.com/10-nifty-excellent-excuses-for-failing-at-photography/

Could I confirm who is attending this?

Gerry, if we are the only ones attending, how about doing a sunrise shoot with the Bondi sculptures??

Could I confirm who is attending this?

wot? no one else is keen to get up at the crack of dawn? where's the commitment...

Gerry, if we are the only ones attending, how about doing a sunrise shoot with the Bondi sculptures??

interesting, if getting onto the rocks at south head is an option I would be keener for that, mainly since I have never been there, however I understand that bondi is a bit closer for you! That said you are normally up this time anyway eh?

biggerry wrote:wot? no one else is keen to get up at the crack of dawn? where's the commitment...

Yeah , I am surprised as well.

biggerry wrote:if getting onto the rocks at south head is an option

I think, it's going to be dicey. It's high tide and I have a feeling it's going to be tricky.... I am not sure because I haven't been there at a god-forsaken hour before. During the day time however, you can frolik on the rocks all you want. Usually people choose to fish.

biggerry wrote:bondi is a bit closer for you

It was more that the sculptures will end on the 15th. I am not too bothered by the distance.

In any case, if no one else is attending, I am happy for you to decide.

Gerry, Surenj I will still try to make this, just wondering if Gerry (your closer to me) you can give me a lift if I am able to make it.

Cheers
Cameron

surenj wrote:

biggerry wrote:wot? no one else is keen to get up at the crack of dawn? where's the commitment...

Yeah , I am surprised as well.

I am quite confident that getting up for a dawn shoot demonstrates one's need to be committed.

The plan is to be in the blue mountains at the time, if that falls through i'll be there

photoaffinity wrote:The plan is to be in the blue mountains at the time, if that falls through i'll be there

And if you do attend, I promise there will be mischievous flashing....

mischievous flashing

Change of date again. 15th Nov.

Why the change of date ?
I was about to join you if it was tomorrow Saturday the 14th not sure I can make it Sunday

firsty wrote:Why the change of date ?
I was about to join you if it was tomorrow Saturday the 14th not sure I can make it Sunday

Sorry firsty, I had no idea that anyone else was attending.

Gerry suggested that we change the date. He was the only confirmed member that was going to attend. [As far as I knew]

This poses a problem; I have contacted him with confirmation of change of date. I will need to wait for a reply before I can confirm either date.

Please check this thread late tonight to confirm. PS: If security is an issue, please PM us to confirm your attendence.