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EOI: Melbourne digital workflow workshop

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:07 am
by DaveB
At the recent Photoshop workshop we mainly covered the tools available in Photoshop itself (after all, there's only so much you can cover in one day) with Matt talking briefly about his sandbox/reject_bin system of sorting shoots.
But I got the impression that there was a lot of interest in the whole workflow area, including:
  • Various ways of organising your images.
  • Efficient ways of processing your shots, all the way from importing to final use.
  • It would concentrate on the use of RAW photos, in both Bridge/Photoshop CS2 and Lightroom 1.0.
  • Managing white balance.
  • Dealing with colour spaces, including when outputting to the web and to printers.
  • Noise reduction.
  • Appropriate use of sharpening: "capture" and "output" sharpening.
I have developed most of a 1-day plan covering these. The next question is how much interest there would be in this. It would be a one-day event in Melbourne for about 10 people. No clear idea of when/where yet. There would probably be a cost involved ($50-$100?) but that depends on the final arrangements.

The workshop would concentrate on CS2 and Lightroom primarily because these are the tools I use. There may be room in the afternoon for a short presentation on using different tools (NC? BreezeBrowser? Bibble? C1?) if there's someone who can present on these. The presenter should work with me to make sure they have a basic "lesson plan" together: at the Photoshop workshop when I was demonstrating a few things I was painfully aware that I didn't have appropriate sample images lined up for a smooth presentation!

As I mentioned above there's a limit to how much we can fit into a single day, so the plan I'm putting together might skim over some areas. I'd be interested in comments on particular areas of interest.

Is there any interest at all?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:16 pm
by Oz_Beachside
I'd be interested :D

Your lesson plan, does it look like a full day, or could we perhaps add a few hours of SB800 (portable lighting) techniques [being greedy as i need to master the nikon CLS before April :oops: ]

I'd be happy to be involved.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:29 pm
by kab
Yep, I'd be keen for another one, and this one sounds like it would be a good follow up sesh.

Certainly interested in the whole workflow encompassing capture to print, ensuring you're colour callibrated all the way. I'd like to see some prints, and comparison prints with the different sharpening techniques. May also be helpful/benficial if you could provide soft copies of the actions, settings & images we use on the day to perhaps recreate some of the stuff we saw.

Till next time...
Regards
Keith

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:28 am
by DaveB
No I don't think there'll be room for "a few hours of SB800" stuff. We would be trying to cram in too much.
Keep in mind that we won't be able to cover everything in detail, but you should go away with a good overview of various ways of processing your images.
I'm trying to come up with the right compromise between detail and fitting everything in.
I think I'd like to briefly cover ways of organising the images with iView MediaPro (now called Microsoft Expression Media!) but that would essentially be a very brief demo so you know what it's about when people mention it.

Keith, yes the "hand-outs" can include soft copies. Good idea.
I'm not sure about making the soft copies available at the beginning of the session or not: while there may be value in bringing your own laptops along, we won't have time for people to get bogged down exploring the examples as there'll be a lot to get through.

This "workflow workshop" is going to be fairly full: there's lots of information to impart and it's something that could be spread out over multiple days. We can fit it into one day (which I expect will be a lot easier for everyone to commit to) but there won't be room for unrelated things such as Nikon-specific lighting experiments.
Incidentally, I'm currently working on the lesson plans for a 6-week colour management & colour printing subject I'm going to start teaching in April (for one of the photography colleges) and I think I'm going to be struggling to fit in all the details I want to cover into 6 sessions!

There might be scope for having two workshops in one weekend, but maybe also there's scope for semi-regular Melbourne get-togethers to cover things like this? Finding appropriate venues could be a problem of course.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:25 pm
by Oz_Beachside
So thats 3, how many others are intersted in something like this?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:50 pm
by Oz_Beachside
how are we looking for interest? This would be a solid round 2 of the Photoshop workshop we had in Feb.

Think we had 8-10 there, would the same emmebers be interested in this? I know I am!!!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:18 pm
by Oz_Beachside
how about we do this second half of april? how are people for dates?

will be a weekend, either a saturday, or sunday.

post your preferences, or PM DaveB or myself.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:54 pm
by photograham
Spoke to DaveB during the week and let him know of my interest. Timing is of the essence for me as we are of to Europe in early May - 37 days to go but who's counting!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:21 pm
by blinkblink
I'm interested. I'm doing a straw bale building course on the last weekend of the month.

Any other time suits me.

Chris

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:27 pm
by Oz_Beachside
OK, so we have the following options for a 1 day workshop;

Saturday, April 21
Sunday, April 22

Saturday, April 28
Sunday, April 29

Saturday, May 5
Sunday, May 6

PLEASE POST WHICH DAYS ARE NO GOOD.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:30 pm
by photograham
At this stage, the April dates are better for me. The PMA show is on in Melbourne on thae first weekend in may, besides, it about my packing time for Europe.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:50 pm
by Matt. K
blinkblink
You're learning to build straw bales? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:19 pm
by Greg B
Matt. K wrote:blinkblink
You're learning to build straw bales? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Yep, that one got my attention too!!

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:36 pm
by blinkblink
Yes, I'm going doing an Associate Diploma in Straw Bailing.

Well ok, I'm building a strawbale house a bit later this year.

http://www.balewatch.com/

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:10 pm
by casnell
I'd be interested in a Sat date...

Chris

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:59 pm
by Oz_Beachside
April is now full for me.

May 5, 6, 12 or 13 open for me.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:45 pm
by chet
did this ever go ahead?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:50 pm
by Oz_Beachside
chet wrote:did this ever go ahead?


that one is still on the cards, dont think we came to a landing on dates.

If you are interested, check out the calendar, we have a portraiture workshop next Sunday.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:09 am
by DaveB
We never settled on things before my last teaching gig started, but I'm hoping to clarify details after this weekend's workshop.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:10 am
by chet
thanks :)

can't do next sunday, but it sounds great. wasn't aware of the calender; I'll check it out.