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Postby sirhc55 on Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:19 am

The Beta release of this upcoming Photoshop program is stunning. A new interface and Bridge totally redesigned with new camera RAW. I will be giving this a real workout over the holiday but I can say already that I am impressed.
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Postby Raskill on Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:39 am

Where did you get the beta from?
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Postby sirhc55 on Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:02 pm

From the Adobe website - you need a valid serial number from CS2 to activate the Beta CS3
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Postby Nnnnsic on Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:26 pm

I disagree in that it's stunning.

There's some cool new features, but a couple of incredibly irritating ones too.

It is good... but not stunning.
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Postby sirhc55 on Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:08 pm

What is one persons nectar is anothers shit :wink:
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Postby Antsl on Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:11 pm

Hi guys,
I'm using CS2 on both a G4 and G5 platform at the moment and I am reluctant to download the Beta CS3 until I know the effect it is going to have on my machines. What are the advantages you are noting at the moment.
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Postby digitor on Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:10 pm

Here's a look at some of the new features:

http://www.photoshopuser.com/cs3/sk_features.html

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Postby stubbsy on Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:50 pm

The killer feature for me is the new Smart Filters that can be reordered, edited, rearranged, blended and masked and are saved with the PSD so you can reopen and edit and reapply (even turn off) the filters at ANY time (there is a nice video of Scott Kelby demoing this HERE)

Downside is all the third party filters that already exist (and I've tried a number) DON'T work as Smart Filters
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Postby Yi-P on Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:27 pm

Im expecting the use of smart filters will eat up massive amount of RAM, and you may force to get a 4GB Mac afterall :P
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Postby rooboy on Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:31 pm

I just had a play with the beta on Macka's C2D Macbook 2Ghz with 2GB RAM.

Streaks ahead of CS2 in terms of responsiveness and speed (to be expected going from Rosetta to Universal Binaries). Interface changes are excellent, I absolutely LOVE being able to have both Channels and Layers visible at the same time. Haven't played with the new selection tools yet so can't comment there.

Camera RAW is much better too - a lot more controls available, and some of those new sliders are wonderful instant fixes. Also seems more responsive, but again that's probably more a PPC/Intel issue than anything.

Bridge now looks much like Lightroom. The loupe feature seems broken on this build, it just shows a box of coloured lines. The interface is definitely sleeker.

Can't wait to waste most of my day tomorrow 'testing' this on my work's G5 iMac - we're currently using CS (not CS2) so I need to convince my boss to upgrade to CS3. Might need to grab in Intel iMac to compare to the G5 :wink:.

sirhc55 wrote:What is one persons nectar is anothers shit :wink:


Funny you should say that, cos I couldn't care less about Smart Filters - I don't really use any filters other than Sharpening and occasional noise reduction.

The killer feature for me might turn out to be the ability to edit JPEGs in Camera RAW. For me, the main advantage of RAW over JPEGs has always been the white balance slider - I know there are all sorts of other technical reasons why RAW files are better, but now that I can edit JPEGs from the camera with the same ease as RAW files I might convert to the dark side :)
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Postby Greg B on Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:19 am

Nnnnsic wrote:I disagree in that it's stunning.

There's some cool new features, but a couple of incredibly irritating ones too.

It is good... but not stunning.


Irritating features are like crap TV programs - all you have to do is avoid them
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Postby Matt. K on Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:38 am

Ho Hum. Who needs it? The more experienced I get the less I need to fiddle my images. A touch of curves...a touch of sharpening, hide a spot or 2 and finished. :violin: :violin: :violin:
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Postby sirhc55 on Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:40 am

Matt. K wrote:Ho Hum. Who needs it? The more experienced I get the less I need to fiddle my images. A touch of curves...a touch of sharpening, hide a spot or 2 and finished. :violin: :violin: :violin:


I will send you a stone block and chisel Matt and you can go right back to basics 8) :lol:
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Postby Matt. K on Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:34 am

Italian marble, if you please. :D :D
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Postby marcotrov on Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:43 am

Well, for what it's worth, I'm impressed, and I'm Italian! :lol:
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Postby Antsl on Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:54 am

Hi All,
I know this is going to sound like and odd question but will CS3 perform the same on a G4 or G5 Mac or do I really need an Intel to make things happen?
Looking forward to the answers! Ants
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Postby DaveB on Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:11 am

In my limited testing so far, PS CS3 is faster than CS2 on my PB 12" (1.33Ghz G4).
I haven't timed things: this is just gut feel. BTW I have the CS2 suite installed (I use Photoshop and Indesign) as well as the CS3 beta, so I've switched between the Photoshop versions a bit.
So just try it for yourself!
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Postby petal666 on Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:13 pm

Darn work computers not having XP SP2 installed.
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Postby Nnnnsic on Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:31 pm

I actually agree Dave. It does feel faster. The initial load-up and time between when the splash goes away and the interface becomes usable seems a lot faster.

It might be from a lack of plugins, but it feels more like it'll be a core improvement, to me.

One thing I'm not impressed with, even though it is a beta, is the change to the export to web page functionality and how currently I can't seem to test it, or how it requires Bridge.
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Postby greencardigan on Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:40 pm

I had a quick look on Adobe's site but couldn't see anything about an expected release date.

Does anyone have any idea when it is expected to be released?
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Postby Nnnnsic on Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:20 pm

Spring US so somewhere between February and April.

My guess is mid to late March.
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Postby blinkblink on Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:25 pm

The Beta will popup a message once a starting in May saying that the Beta has expired. You can use it indefinitely.

My guess they plan to have it released before then.

It does seem quite a bit faster.
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Postby DaveB on Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:12 pm

All that Adobe have said (for months now) is Q2 2007.

General scuttlebutt has been translating that to April/May. The expiry date on the beta does give an indication (as long as we don't expect a second beta).
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Postby greencardigan on Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:38 am

Can anyone comment on the B&W conversion tool and the photo merge tools in CS3? I read somewhere that they're good.
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Postby DaveB on Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:21 am

The B&W conversion seems to be the funky tool from Lightroom. It's better than the plain Channel Mixer in that it allows you to play with the controls without having to manually tweak everything back to 100%. It's quite intuitive.
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Postby Heath Bennett on Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:57 pm

CS3 is timed for me perfectly - just got a MacPro that runs CS2 non-natively.
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Postby gleff on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:48 pm

rooboy wrote: I absolutely LOVE being able to have both Channels and Layers visible at the same time.


You can do that in CS2. Just drag a palette anywhere you like so that it's free floating.
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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:55 pm

gleff wrote:
rooboy wrote: I absolutely LOVE being able to have both Channels and Layers visible at the same time.


You can do that in CS2. Just drag a palette anywhere you like so that it's free floating.


CS3 separates the palettes into individual items so it is very different to CS2 :wink:
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Postby gooseberry on Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:12 pm

If you haven't already seen them, you can watch some videos of CS3 in action from Scott Kelby and others

http://www.photoshopuser.com/?page=cs3/ ... awpart1_sk


Edit: Oops... just saw the link on the first page. :oops:
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:01 pm

question from a RAW virgin...

If shooting in RAW, do I need to "pre-process" them before I open in CS2? But not in CS3?

Or can I shoot in RAW, and adjust WB basics immediately in CS2?

After my RAM upgrade of course :D

thanks, and please be gentle. :oops:
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Postby stubbsy on Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:53 pm

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Shoot raw, open in either CS2 or CS3 - this in turn invokes Adobe Camera Raw (commonly referred to by the TLA ACR) and adjust there
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Postby Geoff on Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:49 pm

A bug perhaps?
Try printing a 6x4" print, there's no print with preview (in any page size) and when you try to print 6x4" it will not lock, and default to A4 (for me anyway). Anyone else confirm this?
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