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Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:55 pm**

i thought my 70-200 vr was big with the t/c ...... but my 200-400 is a monster !
cheers rob

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:57 pm**

Yep - I've seen them in the flesh (?) at birddogs. Although to be fair the difference is marginally less when the hoods are removed (but only marginally).

Where are some shots with it?

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:58 pm**

The 200-400 VR is one great phallic symbol :wink:

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:58 pm**

You are a cruel cruel man Rob...
Say! Where did you live again? Street address please? And when will you be away from home for some time? And please be a good chap and leave the front door unlocked

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:02 pm**

Scott, somehow I don't think he'll leave home without it. :lol:

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:03 pm**

i picked it up about 12:30pm and now its 1:30pm and i have to get some sleep before i go for night shift at 7:30pm .......... so i hardly had it unpacked ..... so far all i know is it's bloody heavy ! ....... nite
cheers rob

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:07 pm**

MHD wrote:You are a cruel cruel man Rob...
Say! Where did you live again? Street address please? And when will you be away from home for some time? And please be a good chap and leave the front door unlocked

Quick .. he's asleep. :lol:

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:23 pm**

Rob,

robw25 wrote:i picked it up about 12:30pm and now its 1:30pm and i have to get some sleep before i go for night shift at 7:30pm .......... so i hardly had it unpacked ..... so far all i know is it's bloody heavy ! ....... nite
cheers rob

Congratulations and I would imagine a

camper.

Guess what I will be testing out at the next 'Adelaide Mini Meet' at Monarto Zoo on Sunday 20 March, 2005 hmmm.....with Rob's permission of course.

ta ta for now,

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:23 pm**

Wow Rob, ok i gather u prolly asleep but yeh hope u bring this on the 20th to Monarto for us all to have a play with.LOL
Well near 2 pm here same as for u Rob but my post time is wrong when i post, was in the truck and on job site ready to poor at 6am, still dark and have a photo shoot at 5pm so i might lay down for couple hours while the boss is out and kids not home yet.
Good to see it arrived safe and well.
Cheers
John
BBJ PS: Fozzie we think alike. LOL

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:09 pm**

And they say that cars are an indication of a mans phallus fantasy - this lens surpasses any car :roll:

Enjoy

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:12 pm**

New generation of users! They all go for VR now! two more 200-400VR ordered today from two Sydneysiders and perhaps it'll be shortage same as the 70-200VR.

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:13 pm**

OH MY GOD

What do you do again for a crust?

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:14 pm**

kipper wrote:OH MY GOD

What do you do again for a crust?

That's how Sydneysiders cope, my friend!

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:16 pm**

Interesting thought. I see the biggest plus of VR is it gives me more stops hand held. I have no problem hand holding with either the 80-400 or 70-200, but the 200-400 - fugeddit

So...

Why would VR be advantageous when tripod mounted vs a non VR lens which would, presumably, cost less?

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:25 pm**

stubbsy wrote:Interesting thought. I see the biggest plus of VR is it gives me more stops hand held. I have no problem hand holding with either the 80-400 or 70-200, but the 200-400 - fugeddit

So...

Why would VR be advantageous when tripod mounted vs a non VR lens which would, presumably, cost less?

!/ they don't make 200-400 Non VR version :lol:

2/ with VR you can pan easily and flexibility in handholding, non VR with tripod or monopod then make you cranky once you missed the shots.
Too slow with tripod or monopod, my hard earned experiences
3/ The Non VR lens say AF-S 300/f.4 is nearly Aussie $2K, AF-S 300/2.8 nearly 8K, 400/f.2.8 = $15k, price at retails shop in Australia.

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:30 pm**

Nicely put Stubbsy

Whats the point of having a VR lens,if you are
going to mount it on a tripod. Waste of money I think!!!! :shock:

NeoN

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:33 pm**

NeoN wrote:Nicely put Stubbsy

Whats the point of having a VR lens,if you are
going to mount it on a tripod. Waste of money I think!!!!

NeoN

Then buy non-VR if money is not your objects!
200-400Vr is designed for shoot in handholding techniques and I did with it but could not do with non VR lenses in that range.
Non VR in that range (Nikon) cost you more!

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:52 pm**

Birddog wrote:200-400Vr is designed for shoot in handholding techniques and I did with it but could not do with non VR lenses in that range.

Birdy, you may have done this just to see if it was possible, but you wouldn't really consider it for any event would you? Your arm would drop off before your 10th shot.
I could see a use for the VR though if you had it mounted on a helicopter chasing wildlife in Africa. :wink:

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:59 pm**

phillipb wrote:
Birddog wrote:200-400Vr is designed for shoot in handholding techniques and I did with it but could not do with non VR lenses in that range.

Birdy, you may have done this just to see if it was possible, but you wouldn't really consider it for any event would you? Your arm would drop off before your 10th shot.
I could see a use for the VR though if you had it mounted on a helicopter chasing wildlife in Africa.

Yes, exactly! around 10 shot, it is OK with VR lens but none with non VR lens in that range. Handholding technique is not required you to have the lens in armed mode all the time, after one or two shots, put it down, breath, rest and re-arm and shoot.
Can't do that with NON-VR.
In rotary wing, more impossible with Non VR, even VR lens is still affected with the vibration of the airframe.

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:09 pm**

Do they have special stabilisation mounts for helicopter ie. something gyro based?

You could imaging flying over some war torn country with a 200-400VR with some nice helicopter mount and have some poor ground person thinking he's being tracked with an M60.

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:11 pm**

I think it's time for some of you to start changing your hobbies to:

Hobbies: Photography, Red Wine, Money Counterfeitting and the occasional Armed Bank Robbery.

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:12 pm**

kipper wrote:Do they have special stabilisation mounts for helicopter ie. something gyro based?

Yes, I have one, it can mount on the rotary airframe with VR again (Vibration absorbing system) and it cost me nearly US$3K with special mounting hardware and construction.

P.S: Design and spec. for the US Military.

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:23 pm**

Kipper, ask a stupid question :?:

... Now why doesn't it surprise me that Birddog would have one

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:25 pm**

kipper wrote:I think it's time for some of you to start changing your hobbies to:

Hobbies: Photography, Red Wine, Money Counterfeitting and the occasional Armed Bank Robbery.

kipper,
Just ask! do you want to join the gang up here? Yes or No?
No excuse/ no explanation, we're recruiting someone like you! :lol:

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:47 pm**

Kipper, ask a stupid question

Which stupid question might that be. I ask so many that I lose track.

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:50 pm**

The one about birddog having one of those helicopter mounts

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:53 pm**

Sydney siders and anyone over that way need big lenses so they can get closer without camera being taken off them. LOL

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:58 pm**

Hey BBJ, imagine taking one of those to your son's swimming carnival :lol:

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:37 pm**

RobW, congratulations, really great piece of glass. I am sure you will love it! Personally I would not be able to sleep :wink:

Philipb, have handheld Birddy's 200-400, not bad at all (maybe raw enthusiasm helped), don't think I would have a problem handholding except maybe a football match where you have to be always on, where I would use a monopod with VR

ps Robw, talk to Birddy re the RRS replacement foot, details here http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/lens_pl ... index.html

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:37 pm**

PPS I am jealous :wink:

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:39 pm**

Glen wrote:PPS I am jealous

Glen - you could always sell off some of your Pepsi glass and buy the 200-400VR :wink:

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:44 pm**

ROFL Chris! I wouldn't mind having a crack at the Coke-Pepsi 300-800 though.

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:47 pm**

If pressured I could probably move the big russian for the 200-400, but what about the loss of 700mm? :wink:

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:50 pm**

Glen wrote:If pressured I could probably move the big russian for the 200-400, but what about the loss of 700mm?

What about the gain in quality - let’s face it Sigma is Coke Glass, Nikon is Pepsi Glass and the Russian is rats glarse :wink:

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:54 pm**

sirhc55 wrote:
Glen wrote:If pressured I could probably move the big russian for the 200-400, but what about the loss of 700mm?

What about the gain in quality - let’s face it Sigma is Coke Glass, Nikon is Pepsi Glass and the Russian is rats glarse

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:09 pm**

Enjoy your new toy Rob!

Glen - you know you want to.... it's only a matter of time.

Heck, Birddog might wanna sell his to finance the 300/2.8VR.

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:46 pm**

Onyx wrote:Enjoy your new toy Rob!

Glen - you know you want to.... it's only a matter of time. Heck, Birddog might wanna sell his to finance the 300/2.8VR.

Onyx,
No way! 300VR is on another budget and it's already set! :wink:

I hardly sold anything which I bought!

Posted: **Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:32 pm**

Birddog114 wrote:I hardly sold anything which I bought!

Um... we'd sort of noticed that Birddog... :lol:

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:37 am**

took a quick trip to the marina last night before work and took this ... done the usual stuff in capture then some sharpening in cs, used a monopod .... birdy in the book it says ........ IMPORTANT be sure to attach a 52mm screw in filter to the built-in gelatin filter holder ??
cheers rob

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:44 am**

Rob,

WOW :!:

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Can not wait to see it on the 20th March, 2005

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ta ta for now,

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:46 am**

Rob,
You've made it! amazing shots!
You're not going to leave without it, aren't you?

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:47 am**

fozzie wrote:Rob,

WOW .

Can not wait to see it on the 20th March, 2005 .

ta ta for now,

fozzie,
Order one, and you'll have it before March 20! :lol:

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:54 am**

Birddog,

Birddog114 wrote:
fozzie wrote:Rob,

WOW .

Can not wait to see it on the 20th March, 2005 .

ta ta for now,

fozzie,
Order one, and you'll have it before March 20!

I would have to win a 'Lottery' to afford the 200-400VR. As I do not gamble, no chance. I will just have to be happy to see Rob's next month.

ta ta for now,

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:57 am**

RobW, nice capture,

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:02 am**

RobW - excellent shot considering the subject was 10 miles away :roll:

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:10 am**

fozzie wrote:Birddog,

Birddog114 wrote:
fozzie wrote:Rob,

WOW .

Can not wait to see it on the 20th March, 2005 .

ta ta for now,

fozzie,
Order one, and you'll have it before March 20!

I would have to win a 'Lottery' to afford the 200-400VR. As I do not gamble, no chance. I will just have to be happy to see Rob's next month.

ta ta for now,

fozzie,
hahahahah!
:lol:

Do you know that, Rob will ask for a small premium of $20.00 everytime you want to touch it? :shock:

Pretty nice looking toy! :wink:

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:13 am**

Rob,
I have one of this to go with the full 200-400VR and my D2h body, can be accomodated with any TC attached.

http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Backpac ... 00_AW.aspx

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:30 am**

Birddog,

Birddog114 wrote:
fozzie wrote:Birddog,

Birddog114 wrote:
fozzie wrote:Rob,

WOW .

Can not wait to see it on the 20th March, 2005 .

ta ta for now,

fozzie,
Order one, and you'll have it before March 20!

I would have to win a 'Lottery' to afford the 200-400VR. As I do not gamble, no chance. I will just have to be happy to see Rob's next month.

ta ta for now,

fozzie,
hahahahah!
Do you know that, Rob will ask for a small premium of $20.00 everytime you want to touch it?
Pretty nice looking toy!

I will organise some sort of contra deal with Rob, that way saving on $20.00 premium :lol:

.

I must get back to work now

.

Seeya,

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:31 am**

Same, I don't think I have enough body parts to sell. Well I do but I wouldn't be around to enjoy this baby.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:44 pm**

Man saw a review of the Sigma 300-800. What a monster!
Think this would make a nice addition to the lense collection

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