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Victor Harbour SA

Posted:
Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:25 pm
by Reschsmooth
We were in Adelaide for the long weekend and drove down to McLaren Vale and Victor Harbour.
These are some shots at Victor Harbour as the sun was setting.
C&C welcome - basically, I want feedback on how to take better sunset photos whilst including the sun in the photo.
P
A little overblown in the corner


Posted:
Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:53 pm
by Justin
Hey first two are great composition especially the second.
I'd straighten the first or is that an illusion with the horizon coming in closer on the right?
#3 is messy I can see the line from the pier but the mid fore-ground messes up the composition, you may also be too tight (small angle) on the fence line.
Re: Victor Harbour SA

Posted:
Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:56 pm
by digitor
Reschsmooth wrote:C&C welcome - basically, I want feedback on how to take better sunset photos whilst including the sun in the photo.
My tips are:
* Use a lens not too prone to flare
* Remove any filter (Even a good one knocks the crap out of your contrast when shooting into the sun)
This snap is of 'er indoors catching up on a penny dreadful while we were camped up on the Murray on the long weekend.
Taken with a 35/2, with a bit of fill flash (I was too lazy to get the flash off the camera, hence the nasty shadows - my excuse is I was halfway through cooking dinner)
Cheers

Posted:
Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:06 pm
by Reschsmooth
Thanks for the feedback - should I be getting really defensive about 'negative' feedback? (Sorry, read the earlier thread today from a forum 'friend').
I used the 17-35 lens but with the CPL.
Justin, the shore is closer on the right, but it could easily be crooked (I had just come from a day of wine tasting.
The second shot was pp'ed with duplicate layers, curves adjusted for the foreground and sky separately.
Digitor - which lens would you suggest is not prone to flare?
Justin, I see what you mean about the messy composition - when I took it, I was thinking the 'ramp' may add something, but I think if I took it differently with a wider angle and without the pier, it would be better.
Again, thanks for the feedback - I never give myself the chance to getting to a great place at sunset.
P

Posted:
Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:27 pm
by digitor
A lens with fewer elements usually has less flare and veiling glare (read: contrast reducing characteristics) - hence most primes are better than most zooms in this regard, given equally good coating and design. The 35 with only 6 elements is, as you can see, not too bad in this area.
It is an indication of the excellent quality of the 17-35 that it performs so well with 13 elements!
As for filters, a CPL has six surfaces to interfere with the light path - they are comprised of a piece of plastic sandwiched between two bits of glass. And they don't really do anything for you when shooting into the sun.
Cheers

Posted:
Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:13 am
by Reschsmooth
Thanks Digitor - I guess I should have tried the 50mm in comparison with the 17-35, although obviously losing a lot of angle.
It was pure laziness that I didn't take the CPL off when shooting into or directly away from the sun.
Cheers
P