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Opposites

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:07 pm
by Mal
I was doing some experimenting yesterday. This was one of the shots I was happy with.
Comments welcome

Image

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:45 pm
by gstark
Mal,

Simple, nice.

Good lighting and exposure.

Composition ?? Hmmm that's a tough one. I can't criticise it, and I think it looks good. I'm not sure how I'd even try to improve it, except perhaps to have maybe placed the rock on top of the sand, but I don't know if that would convey the message that you're trying to convey here.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:50 pm
by phillipb
gstark wrote:Mal,

Simple, nice.

Good lighting and exposure.

Composition ?? Hmmm that's a tough one. I can't criticise it, and I think it looks good. I'm not sure how I'd even try to improve it, except perhaps to have maybe placed the rock on top of the sand, but I don't know if that would convey the message that you're trying to convey here.


I'm in the same boat, maybe try to shape the sand into a square block to oppose the round rock.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:56 pm
by Mal
phillipb wrote:
gstark wrote:Mal,

Simple, nice.

Good lighting and exposure.

Composition ?? Hmmm that's a tough one. I can't criticise it, and I think it looks good. I'm not sure how I'd even try to improve it, except perhaps to have maybe placed the rock on top of the sand, but I don't know if that would convey the message that you're trying to convey here.


I'm in the same boat, maybe try to shape the sand into a square block to oppose the round rock.


Thanks. I like the sand as a square idea. Bummer I have packed up the gear. But i will remember it for next time.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:27 pm
by olrac
maybe a line dividing the two would create the feeling of them being opposites

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:18 pm
by Reschsmooth
One idea, which may lose the message due to complexity, would be to arrange a small mirror (this is based on Gary's discussion of multiple exposure at the portraiture workshop) - in one image, block out the side with the mirror and capture the rock. In the next replace the rock with the sand, ensuring you can see the reflection of sand in the mirror. Block the side with the sand and capture the image of the reflection of the sand.

THis only works if your camera can do multiple exposure - you would end up with a rock looking at a reflection of its future self. :lol: (you could obviously do the reverse as well, sand's reflectoin of its former self)

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:21 pm
by gstark
Patrick,

Nice thinking ...

:)

Mal, you have a good tripod, right? D200?

Matte box?? Hmmmm ....:(

Vee Haff Vays unt meanss!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:59 pm
by Mal
Nice idea Patrick....

gstark wrote:Mal, you have a good tripod, right?


Yep no problems there!

gstark wrote:D200?


OK now we have hit a little snag

gstark wrote:Matte box?? Hmmmm ....:(


no problems here either.

So it looks like my problem is the D200 and the lack of funding...
Let me see, once the extensions are finished, the kids schooling is all paid for I finally will be able to purchase one.
Or maybe I can just keep hoping that I get a show that is syndicated then the D200 will be mine :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh yes it will be mine!



But by then who knows what will be on the market!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:25 pm
by gstark
Actually, knowing your profession, I should have guessed that you'd have access to a matte box. One of the few around here that do. :)


Mal wrote:But by then who knows what will be on the market!


D705? :)

In all seriousness, D2x, D200, D3 or D300 are the only cameras that have this capability ... but the good news is that I expect to see quite a few pre-loved D200 bodies becoming available ... soonish ... and they should be affordable for you.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:40 pm
by Reschsmooth
gstark wrote:In all seriousness, D2x, D200, D3 or D300 are the only cameras that have this capability ...


Ummm, the Bronica has multiple exposure functionality - a little switch near the film winding mechanism :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:42 pm
by phillipb
Of course you could do this with just about every 35mm film SLR ever made but that would be a step backwards. :shock:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:48 pm
by Reschsmooth
phillipb wrote:Of course you could do this with just about every 35mm film SLR ever made but that would be a step backwards. :shock:


A step backward except in terms of picture quality and functionality? :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:58 pm
by phillipb
Hey Patrick, don't remind me of that damn lever, I've lost countless photos because of it. :oops:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:05 pm
by Reschsmooth
You didn't lose them, you merged them into one image :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:06 pm
by gstark
One hideously over-exposed image, right, Phillip? :)

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:07 pm
by phillipb
Try telling the bride that.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:21 pm
by Mal
gstark wrote:Actually, knowing your profession, I should have guessed that you'd have access to a matte box. One of the few around here that do. :)


Speaking of said profession, if anyone is interested in seeing a little bit of "real" journalistic history can I suggest a visit to the lobby of the ABC building in Ultimo. Some wonderful gear on display, including the old three operator crane. It was responsible for many thousands of dollars worth of damage to sets and other equipment over the past three decades!

I feel like I am hijacking my own thread here :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:56 pm
by Matt. K
That image plays with my mind. :D

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:16 pm
by stubbsy
A great concept well executed Mal. I reckon it's fine as it is