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just when you thought you had everything "nailed"

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:00 pm
by redline
I was practice panning using a manual focus lenses on sunday at the local track meet.
Didn't see genji out there, shame the photos didn't turn out too well due to the blown reflections, i got quoted on a drop in filter today for 450$aud omg and i thought the rm90 was expensive!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:05 pm
by stubbsy
redline

I think you've got some good shots despite the problems (1, 4 & 5 are best for me), but I've got whiplash from turning from side to side to view the shots. Don't you EVER do ones that are horizontal?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:17 pm
by Glen
What lens was the drop in filter for? Sometimes they are seen second hand. At $450 you would be tempted to buy a new lens, though it is probably a 500 f4 or similar :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:24 pm
by redline
here ya go Stubbsy,
now i am tilting my head to frame this shot!
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thats better!


Glen its for a 300mm f/2.8. the best i seen today was for 321$ via bh
do you know anyone who could supply me with one?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:58 pm
by Glen
Redline,
More just when I look around places like Photographic Trader mag, s/h places like ECS http://www.europeancameras.com/ or ebay, Trading Post, etc. Would hate to think I am walking past something you need. Would also PM Birddy just to see if he has any connections

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:53 pm
by stubbsy
redline wrote:here ya go Stubbsy,
now i am tilting my head to frame this shot!

Thanks redline. I guess this is a good example of why I commented on the plethora of angled shots. In the angled version the big thing you notice is the angle of the shot since it's not something we see in real life (even when we tilt our head our brain "sees" a horizontal image since our ear canals tell our brain our head is tilted). In the straight version the car speed in the corner is more noticeable (ie we subconsciously "see" the suspension is lower on the left than the right and our brain says - he's cornering pretty fast)

Does this make sense? BTW I'm not totally against angled shots - they have their place, but, like much in photography you don't want to over use the "special effects"

Cheers

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:11 pm
by Greg B
redline, those photos look good to me, except for the angle - I don't like the angle shot as a general rule. Maybe one per year because special circumstances apply, and even then, I'm not so sure.

I think it detracts from your work - you are getting in there and getting good motorsport shots, you don't need angles. Give the angles the old heave ho.

Just my opinion :D

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:43 pm
by genji
redline wrote:Didn't see genji out there, shame the photos didn't turn out too well due to the blown reflections,


hehe..yeah u was there, just uploaded some photos....i should buy the t-shirts to stand out from the crowd :D

check your pm

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:28 pm
by ozimax
Go those old Holdens, BTW, some great shots, Max

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:35 pm
by thaddeus
i agree with the comments on the angles

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:39 pm
by Matty B
AHH motorsport.... a folly but one I love. There are some good shots amongst this bunch here Redline. The open-wheeler I like the best. Angled frames work fine for me. Have you ever tried pointing the lens at motorcycle racing - or not your scene? Thanks for sharing this lot!

Cheers,

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:03 am
by redline
i guess iam part of that minority group who like the "angled" shots.
i use it to stimulate the when drivers tilt their heads as they complete a turn. and it just adds a different perceptive to the usual pan.

again thanks for your comments guys

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:51 am
by redline
Matty B wrote:AHH motorsport.... a folly but one I love. There are some good shots amongst this bunch here Redline. The open-wheeler I like the best. Angled frames work fine for me. Have you ever tried pointing the lens at motorcycle racing - or not your scene? Thanks for sharing this lot!

Cheers,


Matty,
i haven't really done any motorcycle stuff. there just not enough of it in my area i guess. having calder,and sandown within 1/2 hour to 1 hour drive.
perhaps you could point out a few calender event for me might be interested to go depending how busy iam.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:11 am
by mudder
#4 (Ford Cortina?, Coffey ford) caught my eye with the opposite lock... Wow, you've really got the motorsport stuff down pat, these are great!

Cheers,
Mudder

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:16 pm
by Matty B
Hi Redline,

Which part of Melb. are you from? I guessed if Calder Park was close-ish then maybe Broadford might be within your reach?

I used to race with Hartwell MCC. They host the Victorian Road Racing Titles at Broady - this next weekend - Feb. 26th/27th. Then there is the Historic Motorcycle Titles at Broady March 19th/20th. Then there is the Hartwell Club Championship round at Broady on April 23rd/24th. Being from Melb. I'm sure you know where Broadford is. The Vic State Titles are a very high standard of racing - often being contested by interstate riders too. Riders such as Mc Coy, Gobert, Corser, Vermuellin, Mc Karthy, Bayliss, Fergusson, Curtain, Giles etc have all contested the Vic. State titles over the years. There are several good vantage points out at Broadford - you will not be sorry you made the trip!

On a second glance i like your images even more. Never mind the blow -outs, there's always next meet.

Cheers,

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:10 pm
by redline
Hey Matty,
do you have any website that list this info, iam not having any luck finding any of this stuff atm :(
to be honest i never heard of broadford, it it a race track there. i wouldn't mind going but iam working this weekend as iam having the entire mon - fri off to do some assignment work. did you have any club contacts that would allow some shot to be done.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:00 pm
by Glen
No help at all Redline, but the Hells Angels do a great concert in Broadford, plenty of interesting things to take shots of :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:26 pm
by Matty B
Redline, it's been quite a while since I was a member of Hartwell MCC. I'm sure they would have no issues with you turning up to a meeting to phorograph proceedings. In my day there was always one or two photogs with semi serious gear taking shots. I expect you should be able to sell some images at the meeting. I purchased a pair of prints from a fellow who snapped me overtaking a bike at Phillip Island.

Broadford Park is just 4 min. north of the township of Broadford on the Hume Hwy, about one hour north of Melb. There is a bitumen road racing circuit there and a big motocross track. The road circuit is very tight and up and down so you can shoot flat across the straight, up into some corners or down onto a heap of places. You can shoot from very close to the edge of the track in some spots. They race all sorts of bikes from 125cc up to the superbikes (1,000cc) and sidecars. Plenty of overtaking etc.

I got this year's dates from this newsletter :- http://www.hartwellmcc.org/2004%20Dec.pdf

If you've never been to Phillip Island, make the time to go, It's the most magnificent place to race, view and photograph.

Cheers,

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:01 pm
by redline
Thanks Matty,
I'll ask the secretary if their ok with it i might be able to hit their april event.