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A few from Newey

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:18 pm
by stubbsy
Some recent pics for critique. These were all taken around Newcastle. I've been experimenting with my lightroom workflow and these are my first colour output now I have everyting bedded down (watermark and border done from LR too). I'd appreciate feedback on the colour treatement I've used.

Edit - Please refer further down in this thread for the correctly processed images. The ones here were done when my monitor calibration was out and look like crap now I've fixed it. I've left them to show the importance of monitor calibration and to highlight my stupidity :wink: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:


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This last oner's a bit different to the others. Taken on the pedestrian walkway on Stockton bridge. It's so hard to find good looking models at the last minute so Sheepie agreed to stand in :wink:

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Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:47 pm
by surenj
Nice set.. Wish there was a more interesting sky in the first.
2# - I like the oversharpened look
4# - is just Stellar.... :)

Really cool that you have got your workflow sorted... didn't know you could do this much from Lightroom...need to start tinkering..

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:00 pm
by sheepie
Hey Peter...

I think these look a bit oversharpened on my screen, but otherwise the colour looks good (if a little blue ;) ).

I'd crop a bit off the top of the last one, but you know my preference for pano crops. Then again, just delete it - it's beyond repair ;)

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:05 pm
by firsty
the first three don't look right, by that I'm talking the post work not the actual composition/subjects
not sure what they are missing, they look washed out
so it could be
too much fill light
not enough Black
needs more contrast
needs more clarity
or more vibrance
just one may fix it or it could be a little bit of each
I had a quick play with a screen capture (poor quality)
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looks like the main problem was the color temp was too cool
raised temp then brought some blue back to sky and water using the HSL section in lightroom
by lowering blue luminance, increasing saturation, and a hue shift to the right
these were done by dragging on the photo with the little pointer thingy so it also affected the aqua a little as well
also added recovery, a little black, contrast, clarity and vibrancy

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:06 pm
by rcg
I like the leading lines in the last one =)

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:01 pm
by Justin
The reds feel slightly too saturated in all of them, otherwise they are nice. Firsty has put too much yellow in tho.

Nice greens on the first one, they are tough to get.

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:04 am
by digifrog
Everyone has a different perspective as tho what is correct colour - and no one is entirely right - no one is entirely wrong, that is the great thing about phtography - its how you see it yourself. I like both the pictures of the first shot - the one that was posted and the extra greens which were added ! Its personal preference really - unless of course the colours are way off, like you see occasionally - that is just bad !

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:05 am
by norbs
What firsty said.

The 1st especially looks washed out. Go back to what ever you used to use, the results were better.

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:15 am
by johnd
stubbsy wrote: I've been experimenting with my lightroom workflow and these are my first colour output now I have everyting bedded down (watermark and border done from LR too).


Hi Peter, I'd be interested to know what sort of changes you've made with your workflow. I'm looking at ways to streamline my workflow and wondering if LR will help me significantly. My current workflow is:

Preview thumbs in Bridge (CS2)
Open D3 NEF in Capture NX and save as tiff - I don't usually do anything more in NX than this, WB is usually fine. I used to use ACR but it doesn't understand D3 NEFs, DNG converter can read the basic D3 NEFs but doesn't do a good job of converting them (doesn't do the expeed stuff with CA)
Open tiff in CS2 for usual PP, save as PSD, profiled to sRGB
Then later, open PSDs and USM and save as jpg (typically 15X10 for the wall plus small one for smugmug site)

I'm interested in your opinion as to where I would fit LR into this workflow and the sort of time savings I might be able to get.

Cheers
John

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:28 am
by Sandy Feet
I think the colours give them a look like postcards from the late 60's early 70's.

Cheers
Rod

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:00 pm
by stubbsy
johnd wrote:Hi Peter, I'd be interested to know what sort of changes you've made with your workflow. I'm looking at ways to streamline my workflow and wondering if LR will help me significantly. My current workflow is...


John

For a few weeks now I've been intending to post some details of my Lightroom workflow - so I've just started a post to contain that. See HERE for the (preliminary) answer to your question.

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:06 pm
by Oneputt
Peter I would have to say that there appears to be somthing wrong with the colours, at least on this monitor and they do look a tad oversharpened. Not what I have come to expect from you. :wink:

Re: A few from Newey

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:14 pm
by stubbsy
Thanks for all the feedback. I've just moved to a new PC and I've had some difficulties getting my monitor calibration right. I'll be looking at these images on another PC this weekend to see if they look the same. At this end the colours seem reasonably OK although the reds are pushed a little in #2 which I agree is oversharpened.

Edit: Boy is my face RED. I went back and looked at these on my old PC and they looked pretty bad. I then replaced the colour profile I'd used on my new PC with the one from my old one (same monitor used). I've now redone the PP in Lightroom with the amended monitor colour profile and these appear below. OOPS!

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