W00DY wrote:gstark wrote:Andrew,
My first impression is that, even allowing for the desat, the wb might be off. That's before I looked at the original, but I'm taking this from the skin tones, rather then any shadow tones in the whites - they look fairly neutral, but the skin tones still look off to me.
Then I saw the original, and that confirms to me that the wb, at least in that variant, is way off. Way too blue, I think.
I agree, the WB was way off in the original ( I think I was using a silver reflector on them, maybe that explains it).
No, that would not be the reason.
This would, however ...
This was in a dark walkway in the rocks, late in the afternoon...
Late in the afternoon ... anytime within two hours or so of sunrise and sunset, your standard wb settings will be compromised. The sun's light is traveling through more atmosphere - it is at a more oblique angle to where you are - and that will have an effect.
And a dark walkway means you're in shadow. Same as behind a building, under a tree ...
The silver reflector will generally be colour neutral for you; it should add some fill, but not significantly alter the wb.
I am pretty sure I left the WB on auto (on the D300) and then intended to fix it in post.
Which, IMHO, is simply addiung to your workload. Every image that you shoot under auto wb - every single one - will have a different wb from the prior one, and that will, of course, be different from the one that follows. If you're lucky, some of them may be close to a true representation of the shooting conditions.
IF you're lucky.Typically, they'll all be different, and that means that you have to then go and rework every image in post.
If you set wb to a known value - any value - then at least every image will be at the same starting point. If you screwed up and your starting point is wrong, it's just one global change to all of the images.
Much less work for you.
However in saying that what about the processed version do you think is wrong with the WB? Obviously the image has been warmed up a bit as well so wouldn't that counteract any WB correction from the original?
Depends upon how much warming up has been done.
This one is difficult, because of the desat that you've applied. But even allowing for that, I'm still seeing the skin tones as being too blue or cyan. I can't decide which (unusual for me - that's an area that I usually can nail) so I'm blaming your desat for my confusion on this.
Actually, in looking at the groom's shirt, collar, I'm going to call this as too cyan. Pull the cyan back another nudge and warm the cadavers up a little more before you hit them with with the desat. Get the shadowed area of the groom's collar fully neutral; that's where I think your key area is here.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:25 pm
my mistake 
