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Lines

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:01 pm
by darklightphotography
I struggled to avoid a much cornier title than this. The vines marching over the hill really caught my eye. I'm thinking it might be better if I had moved forward into the vines, but a fence prevented it.

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Nikon D70s | 18-70 | 1/125@f11 ISO200

Re: Lines

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:12 pm
by Matt. K
Excellent image and beautifully converted. For some reason it reminds me of a war cemetery.

Re: Lines

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:09 am
by biggerry
Excellent choice for BW, not quite sure why, but it works for me, captures my eye nicely 8)
What was the colour version like?

Re: Lines

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:20 am
by darklightphotography
biggerry wrote:Excellent choice for BW, not quite sure why, but it works for me, captures my eye nicely 8)
What was the colour version like?


Thanks all. I took this thinking BW, but I seem to lean that way for all my landscapes lately. The color is nice, but doesn't have the same impact for me.

Color version (not the same frame). I took a few, this version is without the ND grad filter.

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Re: Lines

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:26 am
by gstark
Kevin,

On the colour image, look at the bottom, at the posts at the start of the fences that march off into the distance. Look at the distance between the bottom of those fence posts.

Now, crop the sky, leaving about that much of the sky only. Basically, you want about one third of the sky that you currently have. Whatcha think?

Re: Lines

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:33 am
by dviv
Great image!

gstark wrote:On the colour image, look at the bottom, at the posts at the start of the fences that march off into the distance. Look at the distance between the bottom of those fence posts.

Now, crop the sky, leaving about that much of the sky only. Basically, you want about one third of the sky that you currently have. Whatcha think?


I agree about cropping the colour image, but I think the B&W is stronger for having the dark sky at the top :up:

This is one of the few times I have prefered the B&W version to the colour one... Thanks!

Re: Lines

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:44 am
by gstark
dviv wrote:I agree about cropping the colour image, but I think the B&W is stronger for having the dark sky at the top :up:


Yep!. Precisely why I was specific about the colour image in my cropping suggestion.

Re: Lines

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:19 am
by darklightphotography
gstark wrote:Kevin,

On the colour image, look at the bottom, at the posts at the start of the fences that march off into the distance. Look at the distance between the bottom of those fence posts.

Now, crop the sky, leaving about that much of the sky only. Basically, you want about one third of the sky that you currently have. Whatcha think?


Gary, for the color version, your crop makes a stronger image. Thanks for the suggestion.

I think I would have liked the color version much better had the vines been on bare dirt, to give more contrast for the lines.


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Re: Lines

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:16 am
by blacknstormy
That black and white version is sublime - I think having that space between you and the start of the vine rows actually makes the image stronger - it actually leads the eye to the start and forces you to follow the vines to the back - just beautiful !!!
Ever thought of entering the Black and White Spider awards ???? http://www.thespiderawards.com/
Hugs
Rel

Re: Lines

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:00 pm
by darklightphotography
blacknstormy wrote:That black and white version is sublime - I think having that space between you and the start of the vine rows actually makes the image stronger - it actually leads the eye to the start and forces you to follow the vines to the back - just beautiful !!!
Ever thought of entering the Black and White Spider awards ???? http://www.thespiderawards.com/
Hugs
Rel


Thanks for your kind words. I have not heard of the BW Spider awards until now, but it's very tempting to see how I would go. I've had a few suggestions to burn in the foreground a little, so I'll try that out later.

Re: Lines

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:04 pm
by surenj
what a beauty! If you moved closer to the wines you would have needed a step ladder.

Re: Lines (MKII)

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:56 am
by darklightphotography
I've taken some of the opinions here into account and re-processed this image. I cropped a little from the left side to remove half a post that was there, and darkened the foreground a bit.

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Re: Lines

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:17 am
by gstark
darklightphotography wrote:Gary, for the color version, your crop makes a stronger image. Thanks for the suggestion.


Always a pleasure, Kevin. I think you've nailed it.

As an aside, and I don't know if anyone else here has noticed this but it's a part of why I think this works so well, if you look at the line the ground takes at the horizon ... the beautiful but gentle slope ... look at how that now relates to the edge of the frame at the top of the image. Now, run your eye to the bottom of the image, to the row of fence posts. Observe how it appears to mirror (in a sense) the line of the hillside at the top of the image, and how it now bears the same sort of relationship to the bottom edge of the frame as we just observed between the hill and the top of the frame.

On the new B&W, I think that cropping the post on the left has actually weakened the image a little. JMHO, but having the post there actually terminated the fence, and the image, at that point. Removing it permits the fence to run out of the image, and while the post may not have been a complete post, it did provide that termination point. FWIW.