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OK this is my first try

Postby Greolt on Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:19 pm

Go easy I'm just a beginner.
I know the focus is not quite right.
Handheld at 1/40th second f22 18-70 at 35mm

I am interested in comments on composition as this is where I see I have a long way to go.
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Postby MHD on Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:30 pm

Welcome!!
I like the composition! Very strong, uses diagonals and 3rds....

I would increase the contrast slightly in PS and (depending on the result) the saturation...
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Postby boxerboy on Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:34 pm

Welcome Greolt!

The only thing I would say about the composition is that the fence into the distance draws your eye along it to .... a fairly boring tree. The fence post has great texture and I see what you were trying to achieve, but IMO the fence should either disappear way into the distance or (better still) lead to an interesting subject.

Look forward to seeing more of your photo's.

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Postby xerubus on Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:38 pm

Welcome to the forums Greolt... enjoy your stay.

As Scott has said.. needs a little contrast. I agree with Peter also... background needs to be blurred just a bit more.... perhaps f8 would work nicely in this shot....

i would add a little bit of saturation in your image editing software also... but that is just personal preference...

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Postby Onyx on Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:43 pm

Welcome to the forums Greolt, and what a wonderful first post! A polariser would have bluened up the sky, but otherwise it's fairly good. You got the horizon level, so I have nothing to complain about. ;)
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Postby Greolt on Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:52 pm

Thanks for your comments.

I see what you mean about the boring tree and putting tha background out of focus.
I was actualy trying to get it all in focus (f22) though I missed it a bit.

As per your suggestion I tried upping the contrast which seemed to increase the saturation as a result.

Well as you have been very gentle I may try posting some more :)

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Postby boxerboy on Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:54 pm

Greolt wrote:Well as you have been very gentle I may try posting some more :)

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Postby gstark on Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:50 am

Welcome to the forums, and thanx for a great first post.

While others make a point regarding the tree, I'm going to suggest something a little different - tree surgery!

Crop the image to a portrait format, using somewhere around the first metal stake to the left of the primary fencepost as your cropline. This will almost completely eliminate the whole tree, leaving just the fencepost plus the fencewire, and perhaps that solitary metal stake.

Probably best to remove that stake too - metal stakes don't taste too good. :)

But seriously, see how that changes things for you ... please post that as a secondary version.
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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:55 am

Welcome Greolt - my thoughts have already been expressed by others. One small point - use a larger aperture to throw out the background - f/4 - f/8 should do it. :D
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Postby the foto fanatic on Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:07 am

Welcome Greolt - good on you for posting an image first up.
Others have pointed out ways this image may be improved, so I won't add to their input, as you probably have enough things to think about now!

I liked the viewpoint and the composition a lot. It is an image trying to say something to the viewer, and that's what it's all about! :D

Have fun with your camera, and let's see more pix.
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Postby genji on Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:13 am

welcome to the forum, Greolt

do you visit this location oftain?, if yes, try a sunset shot, with the same compo, with and without the tree.

IMHO the mode of a sunset will enhance the 'boring' tree.

i always, when possible, visit the same location at different times of the day.

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Postby stubbsy on Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:00 am

Like others I think the Depth Of Field (DOF) is the issue here. I think it's a great shot that would have been better with shallower DOF so the post was sharp and in focus and the distant objects were more blurry.

To be simple, you control depth of field with aperture (which is why others here are talking about changing the f value since that's the aperture measure) and the wider the aperture the shallower the depth of field. A large f number = a small aperture and a small f number = a large aperture. So if you used aperture priority mode and experimented with the extremes of the f stop values that don't generate HI or LO error messages you'll see what I mean.

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Postby Greolt on Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:21 am

Thankyou all for your comments. You have indeed been gentle.

Most have said less DOF would have been more appropriate and I can see what you mean.
The funny thing is I was really trying to get it all in focus with a small aperture.
I didn't quite get it, a tripod would have helped there.

Going back and getting it with a dramatic sky or sunset would be great but not practical (four hours drive)
What I need to learn is to see good composition all around me where I am. That is what I lack and would like to develop.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

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Postby mudder on Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:08 pm

Great subject choice, the texture in the old fence post really makes it...
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