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Water Falls

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:44 pm
by Wink
Hi everyone!

This is my first attempt shooting a little creatively. I haven't had my camera long and i've only done a tiny bit of point and shooting with it until now.

I've been reading Scott Kelby's Digital Photography books and today i noticed it was quite still and very overcast so i decided to try my luck with some waterfall shots. I started shooting at about 5pm.

Below are some examples. Please feel free to offer any comments or advice! :D

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Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:45 pm
by Wink
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Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:08 am
by colin_12
I think you would get a more lush feeling out of these if the greens were a little more pronounced.
Not over done mind just enhanced slightly.
Nice spot for an arvo out by the looks.

Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:06 am
by Wink
So how would i achieve that? BTW, they were all taken using my EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS.

Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:18 pm
by Willy wombat
Lots of water for you at Snobs - last time I was there it was a mear trickle

Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:49 pm
by Wink
Sure was.
I figured after all rain we've had here in the last week or so it would've been flowing quite nicely.

Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:07 pm
by biggerry
So how would i achieve that?


A circular Polariser Filter would do the trick in my opinion - 90% of my waterfall shots have used a CP, this removes reflected light which can benefit in two ways, firstly it can remove the reflections from the water hence giving more clarity to those lovely rocks and secondly it will give the effect of saturating colours, important for those greens. However, adjustment of the levels and curves coupled with contrast and saturation tweaks these could come alive to what Colin was referring to.

Pictures speak a thousand words so i took one of yours and tweaked it a little to see what could be done. If you have objections to this pm me and I will remove it.

On a side note, the thumbnails posted make it hard to review the images without leaving the site, maybe use a thumbnail a bit larger...

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Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:09 pm
by Wink
That looks better.
Thanks for the suggestion of the filter. I was aware of saturating and brighting things up in PS or Lightroom. Just didn't know how to achieve it from the camera.

I've changed the image links.

Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:25 pm
by biggerry
ohh yeah, those images are much easier to view!

the polariser is one the few filters which cannot be replicated in photochop of any other form of PP, hence why I have always ensure I have had one.

The colours in these images are a bit muted, were you shooting just raw format or jpeg?

Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:11 pm
by Wink
Shot in raw format. These are jpegs copies.
It was late in the day and it's naturally quite dark at these falls due to to very steep hills either side.

Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:32 am
by ian.bertram
I also love Scott Kelby's books- he's straight and to the point. I have his Digital Photography Books 1 and 2- there's plenty of stuff in them you can just jump right in and try straight away. They're easy to read and have loads of advice. This could actually make an interesting thread- "photography books I really like" ...oh and I like the images, especially number 2- it's a kind of 'in your face' waterfall shot- well done.

Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:58 am
by Wink
There's a 3rd in the series now. They've been helpful.
I'm currently reading Understanding Exposures.

Re: Snobs Creek Falls

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:30 pm
by Wink
I've re uploaded the images after turning the brightness and colour up a bit. :D

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:02 pm
by Wink
Tried my luck again with this, but this time i went to Trentham Falls...

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I'm really happy with what i achieved with the last one. I might see what it looks like printed.

C&C appreciated! :D

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:55 pm
by auxr8220
last one is definately a winner :D

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:42 pm
by colin_12
The second and the last look good for the latest posted Adam. :up:

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:00 pm
by Wink
Thanks guys!

Now i've got Lightroom using the camera profiles the colors are much better.

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:58 pm
by biggerry
These are a vast improvement on the last set, the second one is most striking for me, the exposure is spot on and the composition is different and interesting. The first appears alittle over exposed, maybe just due to the top section. On all of them I might suggest just backing off the saturation a fraction :cheers:

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:25 pm
by aim54x
That last one is a winner! The 2nd image is a bit too vibrant with the oranges and the greens looking a bit unnatural. Great to see you have been enjoying yourself!

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:09 am
by robert
Last one for me. The lead in of the stream to sky is well done. There is something about the second though....
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Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:18 pm
by Willy wombat
I like the colours and the sky in the last one you have posted.

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:27 pm
by Wink
Thanks!

I might enter it in the photography competition at the local show and see how i do. :lol:

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:50 pm
by Wink
Revisted an old image from this set after doing a bit of reading on HDR processing...

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(Made a much nicer looking website/watermark logo too).

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:36 pm
by PiroStitch
Prefer the original over the reworked HDR version. The first had more of a muted and natural beauty, but the HDR looks overprocessed. I would tune down the saturation/vibrancy of the reworked.

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:06 pm
by biggerry
Wink wrote:Revisted an old image from this set after doing a bit of reading on HDR processing...


this processing will appeal to some and not to others, at the end of the day its part of your learning process and thats important.

I prefer the original image, however see the merit in the recent version. It does however look like its been beaten over the head with the PP bat and I think going with the natural colours and vibrancy (which there appears to be abundancy of anyway) may result in a stroger image.

Wink wrote:(Made a much nicer looking website/watermark logo too).


looks alot less gumby (yes thats me saying I like it better than your old one) but then I don't really care for watermarks most of teh time :wink:

Water Falls

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:29 pm
by Wink
Thanks guys.
I'll pull the colour back and see if I can find a happy medium.

Re: Water Falls

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:22 pm
by surenj
Adam, I also prefer the 1st version. Apart from removal of some of those mild halos, I reckon it's definitely printworthy. Very nice composition indeed!

The processed version doesn't seem to have increased the dynamic range much though? Looks like saturation and clarity type of adjustment.

Water Falls

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:16 pm
by Wink
Yeah. I've only got 2 exposures. One exposes the bush and the other exposes the sky, so I don't have the normal bracketed range of shots to play with.