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Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:14 am
by dviv
Hi all,

I'm having problems trying to get the balance right in the first photo (obviously I shouldn't have had the bright background :mrgreen: )

I used a bit of flash on the later ones which helped, but the expression in the first is good so I'm trying to save it.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:27 am
by Willy wombat
Cute kid but the set up has some issues.

I think its going to be hard to fix exposure in #1. With shooting natural light and the back lit subject and no fill flash, it might have been better to spot meter the face and blow out the background (I think the background is the other distracting element because there are too many conflicting uprights).

A pp suggestion you might consider to reduce DOF would be to use a heavy gausian blur on the background and apply a layer mask to try and retain the detail on the subject and the foreground.

Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:33 am
by dviv
Willy wombat wrote:Cute kid but the set up has some issues.

I think its going to be hard to fix exposure in #1. With shooting natural light and the back lit subject and no fill flash, it might have been better to spot meter the face and blow out the background (I think the background is the other distracting element because there are too many conflicting uprights).

A pp suggestion you might consider to reduce DOF would be to use a heavy gausian blur on the background and apply a layer mask to try and retain the detail on the subject and the foreground.


Thanks for the comments - and for the suggestions - I'll give the blur idea a try tonight.

It wasn't really a "setup" as such (probably should have been :P )- more some happy snaps that came out fairly well.

Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:57 pm
by surenj
David,

I wouild like to see your attempt at blurring the background. It is difficult to pull off convincingly.

Could I ask how you used your flash for the bottom two? Bounce or direct? I find that bounce with +1 EC is fairly good in this sort of situtation.

Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:07 pm
by dviv
surenj wrote:David,

I wouild like to see your attempt at blurring the background. It is difficult to pull off convincingly.

Could I ask how you used your flash for the bottom two? Bounce or direct? I find that bounce with +1 EC is fairly good in this sort of situtation.

Hi Surenj,

I didn't have an external flash with me at the time so it was on-board direct flash. I agree with you re the bounce - although I usually use -2/3 :mrgreen:

Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:55 pm
by Pa
Hi Dave here's an attempt by me...I used the middle slide in levels [i.70]..and unsharp mask..


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Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:05 pm
by surenj
David,

I would use more flash especially if you are bouncing from a 45 degree angle + with backlight like this. [depends on your metering I suppose]

Not sure whether you like this look. I had to crop it, add catch lights in addition to desaturation, curves etc... BTW your WB may be oiff...

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Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:49 pm
by big pix
......... this plug in can fix the background

http://www.alienskin.com/bokeh/examples.aspx

Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:24 am
by dviv
Thanks for all the suggestions! - That's a very cool bit of PP Surenj :up:

I played around quite a bit and came up with this:

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Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:38 pm
by PiroStitch
Did a closer crop and converted to b&w, increased the contrast and applied a USM

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Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:37 pm
by surenj
Nicely done David, Maybe back off a little on the skin smoothing.

Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:35 pm
by dviv
I like the B&W Piro, thanks!

surenj wrote:Nicely done David, Maybe back off a little on the skin smoothing.


Fair enough :mrgreen: I thought I'd might have gone too far but it was getting late :chook:

Re: Baby Photos - PP help please

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:43 pm
by surenj
dviv wrote:Fair enough I thought I'd might have gone too far but it was getting late

Dude, Edit-fade ... :mrgreen: