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Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:13 pm
by gstark
Geoff and Ron King, of course: the Foreday Riders!

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And of course, Tony "Pedro" Pedrosa.

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A word about the colour ... There was a large rectangular stage light in each corner of the stage, throwing light with constantly changing colours onto the walls of the tent stage. The lights are evident in some of the gallery images. These lights made photographing the Riders and John The Revelator quite interesting. I just left the wb on flash and gave up! :)

Here's the full gallery, btw.

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:32 pm
by surenj
Gary, looks like you had a great time. The expressions you have captured are stellar!

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:00 pm
by aim54x
surenj wrote:Gary, looks like you had a great time. The expressions you have captured are stellar!

:agree: Love the expressions!

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:11 pm
by Matt. K
I have the feeling I've missed something special. I love the blues! And what a great subject for a camera!

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:21 pm
by zafra52
Great expressions. I think the last photo would be better in square format. It looks a great concert, with drinks and blues!

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:25 pm
by Mr Darcy
gstark wrote:A word about the colour ... There was a large rectangular stage light in each corner of the stage, throwing light with constantly changing colours onto the walls of the tent stage. The lights are evident in some of the gallery images. These lights made photographing the Riders and John The Revelator quite interesting. I just left the wb on flash and gave up!


Hey Gary, There's this setting called "AUTO WHITE BALANCE" :twisted: (Ducks and runs for cover)

We had other stuff on, or we would have been there.

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:38 pm
by gstark
Matt,

Matt. K wrote:I have the feeling I've missed something special.


I know that you and Philo would have loved the weekend, so yes.


Greg,

Mr Darcy wrote:Hey Gary, There's this setting called "AUTO WHITE BALANCE"


While I appreciate the jest in your comment, I actually did stop and think about switching to AWB while shooting, but I made an active decision to stay with my chosen settings.

I think that what I've got more accurately reflects what I was seeing, whereas using AWB would have changed what was being captured in a manner that would have shown us something different, and, I fear, something less dynamic. So while I may say I wasn't happy with the shooting conditions and how they were impacting upon what I was doing, I suspect that the AWB solution would not have been better, and might have been worse.

Cheers

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:04 pm
by aim54x
gstark wrote:
Mr Darcy wrote:Hey Gary, There's this setting called "AUTO WHITE BALANCE"


While I appreciate the jest in your comment, I actually did stop and think about switching to AWB while shooting, but I made an active decision to stay with my chosen settings.

I think that what I've got more accurately reflects what I was seeing, whereas using AWB would have changed what was being captured in a manner that would have shown us something different, and, I fear, something less dynamic. So while I may say I wasn't happy with the shooting conditions and how they were impacting upon what I was doing, I suspect that the AWB solution would not have been better, and might have been worse.

Cheers


You wont know until you have tried it Gary!

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:32 pm
by gstark
aim54x wrote:
gstark wrote:
Mr Darcy wrote:Hey Gary, There's this setting called "AUTO WHITE BALANCE"


While I appreciate the jest in your comment, I actually did stop and think about switching to AWB while shooting, but I made an active decision to stay with my chosen settings.

I think that what I've got more accurately reflects what I was seeing, whereas using AWB would have changed what was being captured in a manner that would have shown us something different, and, I fear, something less dynamic. So while I may say I wasn't happy with the shooting conditions and how they were impacting upon what I was doing, I suspect that the AWB solution would not have been better, and might have been worse.

Cheers


You wont know until you have tried it Gary!


Actually, I have, and thus I do.

:)

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:46 pm
by surenj
Since we are talking WB, shouldn't one try to make the skin look as neutral as possible by compromising on the rest of the scene?

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:58 pm
by gstark
surenj wrote:Since we are talking WB, shouldn't one try to make the skin look as neutral as possible by compromising on the rest of the scene?


Should one?

Good question.

In this situation, we need to ask ourselves what it is that we're trying to capture, and what we want to see as the outcome? Do we want a portrait perhaps, reflecting correctly rendered skintones? Do we want to try to create an image that tries to represent how the performance looked?

I could also reduce (some of) these to B&W, which changes the images completely, rendering this discussion totally moot. Or perhaps One could go for something different again.

There's no "correct" answer to the specifics of your question. I'm trying, here, to show the performance as it happened, and as it appeared. To me, that means awb is definitely not correct, because the different colours of the light are exactly what (I think) needs to be a part of the images.

But that is not a "correct" answer to your question; it merely illustrates what my goals and desires and decisions were when I was shooting. Others may have chosen different settings, for whatever reasons, and those images would also stand on their own merits.

Re: Riding with the Kings

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:07 pm
by surenj
Thankx Gary, that does make sense. It would interesting to visualise these scenes in tungsten balance where the background of the scene may be predominantly blue with the skin being slightly warm.