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Phoebe

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:58 am
by Geoff M
A recent one of my daughter...have processed in a number of different ways, but here is just one hoping for your feedback.

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Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:15 am
by Mr Darcy
I find the "four eyes" detracts from the image. Either have the eyes showing either entirely through the glasses, or not at all please.
Apart from that, I really like the image

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:50 pm
by surenj
Lovely soft processing and colours. You have done brilliantly to avoid reflections in the glasses.

Now that Greg's pointed it out, I can see the refraction on the eyes.

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:55 pm
by Matt. K
The eyes are distracting. Gregs advice is spot on.

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:31 pm
by wendellt
the expression is priceless
great depth of field as well

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:17 pm
by surenj
I have tried to re-adjust the eyes with a simple PS - cut n paste

I hope you don't mind Geoff.

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Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:11 am
by aim54x
Sorry Surenj...but it looks even more odd now....

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:20 am
by surenj
aim54x wrote:but it looks even more odd now....

In what way?

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:03 am
by Geoff M
Thanks guys for the feedback. I agree with the eyes/specs problem and did try to avoid it when taking the shot. The lens is quite small and with out a square on pose it was very problematic and nigh on impossible to avoid.

Surenj - No problems with the re-work, it looks much better in my opinion. I would like to know how you done it though I am next to hopeless with PS, I generally stick to LR for all my processing.

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:39 am
by Mr Darcy
surenj wrote:
aim54x wrote:but it looks even more odd now....

In what way?


I think there are two issues in the rework.
First, there seems to be a colour cast that was not in the original. It looks bluer. I can't understand how that might have happened, but it is what I see.
Second, while you have straightened up the iris amazingly well, but the eyeball is still magnified and shifted. That makes, in particular, the RHS (as we look at it) eye look out of proportion to the left, giving her face an off kilter look.

I don't know the answers to any of this, but things I would try at click time are:
1. Take the glasses off altogether, but then that is not her look.
2. Slide them further down the nose into reading glass position so we don't see the eye through them at all
3. Push them further up the nose so they completely cover the eye. may look odd though.
4. Replace them with larger frames so they completely cover the eye. Again, not her look.

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:20 am
by ozimax
A nice soft portrait, but yes, two things come to mind. The eyes are a bad distraction and a smile would make things much better. Keep em coming....

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:29 am
by Geoff M
Thanks for the pointers Greg, I will try to remember your advice next time.

Here is another from the same session and similarily processed, the glasses still encroaching on the eye a little but probably more acceptable in this case. Note to self.....next time Phoebe needs new glasses insist on her getiing some with a larger lens to avoid these photographic pitfalls!

Photos shot with the Nikkor 60mm f2.8 micro, and camera mounted SB800 fitted with a Gary Fong Lightspere.

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Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:53 pm
by DebT
the 2nd, while not quite as nice a pose or background has the same soft gentle quality and is more flattering simply because the glasses (and eye distorion) are not a distraction . Cute quirky head tilt and I like the position within the frame. Remember to also shoot her without glasses ocassionally (although they do suit her) - she may prefer it when looking back on old photos. Have you tried being slightly lower and shooting up a little ? PS done well to have no reflections in the lenses - are they no reflective glass or are you just clever?
Deb T

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:46 pm
by Sandy Feet
Another option we used to us with Musos for photo shoots or TV performances, mainly because of reflection, was to pop the lenses out of the glasses.
May work in this case

Cheers
Rod

Re: Phoebe

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:51 pm
by Geoff M
DebT wrote: PS done well to have no reflections in the lenses - are they no reflective glass or are you just clever?
Deb T


They are not non reflective lenses so I guess I must just be clever :lol: :lol: or very lucky :!: