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The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:50 pm
by surenj
Ok This is the last of the Cockatoo posts.... :mrgreen: I am quite keen to get your thoughts especially on the 2nd image.

I couldn't resist posting a photo of the cruise liner. I had a few minutes and tried to capture the sense of scale here.
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When I took the photo, I left an empty bit in the middle and only realised what I could add when I got home.... :twisted:
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I suppose they haven't yet replaced the asbestos. :P
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Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:27 am
by Greg B
I like them all, #1 moderately, #3 more so, and #2 is a beauty. The added shadow works really well
and the result is a fantastic image. Well done.

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:32 am
by Matt. K
Suren
#2 is beautiful in a strange sort of way. It would make a great CD cover.

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:02 am
by ATJ
Suren, I think the first one would be better if it was a bit lighter. It looks under exposed to me.

The second one doesn't do much for me. It looks faked. Sorry.

The third one is of fibreglass, isn't it? I like the lines.

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:21 am
by Mr Darcy
#1,2 I agree with ATJ
#1 instead of a full lighten, perhaps just lift the port side of the boat

#3 Yes it is fibreglass. It is badly weathered and probably quite brittle. The sheets to either side look like colourbond steel, so no asbestos here. Sorry. If you want some, I dug some up in the back yard the other day. I buried it again, but I can show you where to dig. Don't worry. No snakes at the moment. :twisted:

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:09 pm
by Willy wombat
#2 is gorgeous

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:22 pm
by gstark
ATJ wrote:The second one doesn't do much for me. It looks faked. Sorry.


Yes, it does look faked.

But so what? I think it's a great idea, quite original, and very well executed.

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:54 pm
by ATJ
gstark wrote:
ATJ wrote:The second one doesn't do much for me. It looks faked. Sorry.


Yes, it does look faked.

But so what? I think it's a great idea, quite original, and very well executed.

I thought the purpose of "Image Reviews and Critiques" was for people post their opinions. That's what I was doing. It looks faked to me and I don't like it. Get over it.

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:58 pm
by biggerry
That second image takes you to another place suren, well done. I also liek the last one, its neat how it could either be a wall looking up or a roof looking horizontal - that there are some leading lines...

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:06 pm
by gstark
ATJ wrote: It looks faked to me and I don't like it.


Andrew, please. No need to get snippy. You don't like it, and that is fine. I have no problem with that.

My "So what" comment was not directed at you, but more towards the fact that you had stated that the image was faked, but that it bothered me not that it was.

I do like it, and I expect that my opinion carries, no more, and no less, weight, as an opinion, than yours. As you know, I welcome diverse opinions on the images posted here, but not comments like "Get over it". I think that was uncalled for.

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:47 pm
by Wink
I like the first because the perspective makes the bridge as opera house look tiny compared to the ship.

I'm not feeling the planes shadow on number two. I would've tried cloning one of the tents into the empty space.

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:32 pm
by surenj
Greg B wrote:I like them all, #1 moderately, #3 more so, and #2 is a beauty. The added shadow works really well
and the result is a fantastic image. Well done.

Thanks Greg.

Matt. K wrote:#2 is beautiful in a strange sort of way. It would make a great CD cover.

Now you've got me thinking..... :mrgreen:


ATJ wrote:The third one is of fibreglass

Mr Darcy wrote:If you want some, I dug some up in the back yard the other day

Ahem, I was kidding. I didn't know what it was, but I knew it wouldn't be fibreglass. Thanks for the offer Greg, I will come with a shovel next time I visit the blue mountains. :wink:

ATJ wrote:Suren, I think the first one would be better if it was a bit lighter. It looks under exposed to me.

Will have a play Andrew, Thanks.

Willy wombat wrote:#2 is gorgeous

Thanks Willy.

biggerry wrote:That second image takes you to another place suren, well done.

Thanks Gerry.

Wink wrote:I like the first because the perspective makes the bridge as opera house look tiny compared to the ship.

That was the idea wink. that ship is so HUGE!!

And Also, thanks for the negative feedback on the #2. I like to push the envelope as much as I can. Otherwise we will never find out what we can do. :mrgreen:

Sorry for causing a little controversy!

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:50 pm
by photomarcs
gstark wrote:I do like it, and I expect that my opinion carries, no more, and no less, weight, as an opinion, than yours. As you know, I welcome diverse opinions on the images posted here, but not comments like "Get over it". I think that was uncalled for.



and this is why i join dslrusers. Amen.

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:01 pm
by photomarcs
ATJ wrote:Suren, I think the first one would be better if it was a bit lighter. It looks under exposed to me.


Agreed, it does look slightly underexposed, but i like the composition.

By underexpose, i believe what i mean to say is that the bottom left of the image where the cruiseliner is docked, the shadow area there has no detail, that is pretty much my only criticism.

also, in image #2 : how did you implant this ? just brush and opacity on a new layer?

heres something for you to try, find an image where you've got a plane in similar perspective, using the pen in photoshop, draw around the plane to make the selection, lightly feather ( 5px depending on original size). cut and paste on you're empty space.

Using Hue/Saturation pull the lightness right down till its black, confirm then enter again into hue/saturation and lighten.

Once you've done that, go to Filters>blur>gaussian blur and try to make it more shadow like than just a straight edge.
and reduce opacity to your liking.

Maybe change blending mode to darken or overlay, not sure how it would turn out on this step.


Just a suggestion, but thats how I would have done it.. not to say what i'm doing is the only way to do it, but its ONLY a suggestion. :D



still i like the way you've done yours, great job :up:

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:05 pm
by gstark
surenj wrote:Sorry for causing a little controversy!


Don't apologise for that. Controversy is a good thing. It leads to open and active and forthright discussions.

And those discussions will hopefully lead to us all making better images.

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:53 pm
by surenj
photomarcs wrote:Agreed, it does look slightly underexposed, but i like the composition.

Thanks Marc. I have taken everyone's comments on board and adjusted the image somewhat. My camera doesn't allow too much shadow recovery without the noise monster rearing it's head but....

I have pulled a "wendell" on the blue skies.... :mrgreen:

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photomarcs wrote:also, in image #2 : how did you implant this ? just brush and opacity on a new layer?

Thanks for your tips Marc.

I imported a silhoutte of a plane from a free stock site. Then blurred with gaussian. Blended with some mode ?can't remember. added noise and reduced opacity. Me thinks that we should collaborate on various photochop challenges.... I am sure there is much to learn. :wink:

gstark wrote:And those discussions will hopefully lead to us all making better images.

Amen to that.

Thanks for your interest in these images.

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:10 am
by zafra52
2 is the best. 3 is very good, but the colours are not as vibrant as they could be, at least on my computer screen. Possibly the result of the polariser filter and a low ISO?

Re: The Cruiseliner, attack and asbestos

PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:07 pm
by surenj
zafra52 wrote:2 is the best. 3 is very good, but the colours are not as vibrant as they could be, at least on my computer screen. Possibly the result of the polariser filter and a low ISO?


Thanks Zafra.

I didn't use a polariser. The dark colour is due to the processing. I also selectively increased the contrast of the fibreglass to make the fibres stand out.