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Camping

Postby dervish16 on Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:37 pm

These pics were taken when I went camping at Jervis Bay and took some photos of the sunset. Please tell me what you think.

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Re: Camping

Postby zafra52 on Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:39 pm

They are all very good pictures, but I pefer
the second last because of the sky. I love the
contrast of colours and the angle.
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Re: Camping

Postby aim54x on Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:42 pm

You were up early!!

stunning greens in these, but I would like to see the exposure pulled back a bit
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Re: Camping

Postby biggerry on Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:09 pm

What part of Jervis is this? looks pretty nice :)

The common theme I find with this set of images is that each one has some good elements but nothing to tie them together. For example teh first image has some good sky (could do with some more room there) but the viewer gets lost trying to find their way from teh bottom of the image, the leading line of rocks leads me right out the RHS of the image.

The second image is the same, nice sky and nice green patch (ooh yes I like taht green patch) however the water is running out of the frame and sends teh poor viewer out there as well, whereas he/she should be heading up into teh sky!

I guess what I am gettign at there needs to be a path for teh viewer to run thru these images and that is what is missing imo. You have good elements and spotted them well, now just need to tie them together :up: :up:

This is all said from hindsight and sitting in the armchair - the easiest opinion of them all!

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Re: Camping

Postby chrisk on Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:19 pm

looks like currarong. nice shots, greens look fabulous.
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Re: Camping

Postby surenj on Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:21 am

biggerry wrote:The common theme I find with this set of images is that each one has some good elements but nothing to tie them together

I agree. You seem to have a wideangle lens. (can't see the EXIF though) I think you need to get into the thick of the action when using these. Some of the pictures look like you have stood out too far.

It is also important to consider the subject of the picture. Make the subject look big and prominent and use the other elements to add context. One has to be careful not to overpower the subject. For example, the sky is very nice in these and I would tend to include more sky and less greens...

As already mentioned, I've never been to this location so don't know the logistics, tides etc which may not have allowed you any other compositions...

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Re: Camping

Postby dervish16 on Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:10 am

biggerry wrote:What part of Jervis is this? looks pretty nice :)

The common theme I find with this set of images is that each one has some good elements but nothing to tie them together. For example teh first image has some good sky (could do with some more room there) but the viewer gets lost trying to find their way from teh bottom of the image, the leading line of rocks leads me right out the RHS of the image.

The second image is the same, nice sky and nice green patch (ooh yes I like taht green patch) however the water is running out of the frame and sends teh poor viewer out there as well, whereas he/she should be heading up into teh sky!

I guess what I am gettign at there needs to be a path for teh viewer to run thru these images and that is what is missing imo. You have good elements and spotted them well, now just need to tie them together :up: :up:

This is all said from hindsight and sitting in the armchair - the easiest opinion of them all!

hth.


It was at red point, in between Currarong and Cullala. Yeah you have a point but unfortunately I was out there too late and had to rush to take the photos. How could i make the rocks lead up to the sky when they are going out to the right? Would I need to move back and go lower?

Thanks a lot for the critic
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Re: Camping

Postby dervish16 on Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:13 am

surenj wrote:
biggerry wrote:The common theme I find with this set of images is that each one has some good elements but nothing to tie them together

I agree. You seem to have a wideangle lens. (can't see the EXIF though) I think you need to get into the thick of the action when using these. Some of the pictures look like you have stood out too far.

It is also important to consider the subject of the picture. Make the subject look big and prominent and use the other elements to add context. One has to be careful not to overpower the subject. For example, the sky is very nice in these and I would tend to include more sky and less greens...

As already mentioned, I've never been to this location so don't know the logistics, tides etc which may not have allowed you any other compositions...

HTH


I was using a 18-200mm nikon lens but got a 11-16mm f2.8 arriving tomorrow :D Yeah I agree I should have had more sky in the photo . Think I'm following the rule of thirds too much haha. Whats EXIF?

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Re: Camping

Postby Mr Darcy on Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:57 am

dervish16 wrote:Whats EXIF?

When you take a photo with a digital camera, the camera records a whole pile of information along with the image.
The information includes, amongst other stuff:
The camera that was used, the lens, WB, Shutter, aperture, the focal Length, flash etc
It can also include where the photo was taken (geotagging)

This is a partial copy of the EXIF data from I photo I took last year:
Camera Maker: NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model: NIKON D200
Image Date: 2008-09-20 16:43:41 +1200
Focal Length: 24.0mm (35mm equivalent: 36mm)
Aperture: f/4.0
Exposure Time: 0.013 s (1/80)
ISO equiv: 200
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Manual
Light Source: Cloudy
Flash Fired: No
Color Space: Nikon Adobe RGB 4.0.0.3000
GPS Coordinate: 46° 39′ 33.32″ S, 168° 50′ 55.41″ E
GPS Altitude: 19.5m
Photographer: Greg Kraushaar
Copyright: (c) 2008 Greg Kraushaar
Caption: New Zealand Trip for Leila's Wedding 2008
Comment: (c) Copyright Greg Kraushaar

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Lots of people here, and elsewhere use this information is assessing the photo, and working out how it was made.
There are addons available for most browsers to allow you to see the EXIF data. I used fXIF for Firefox to get the information above. There are also EXIF viewers built into most editing software. Unfortunately, some ways of processing the photo strip this information out. You seem to have used one of those as part of your procedure for getting your photos up on the web.
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Re: Camping

Postby Mr Darcy on Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:12 pm

Oh and another thing.
It is feasible to put information into the EXIF of the photo after the event. I added the location data from my GPS after I got home.
It is also possible to add tags, called metadata to your photos while you are processing them. For example I could tag the above photo with:
"New Zealand, holiday, windswept, tortured, tree, (species)" and so on. Then If I wanted to find a photo among the thousands I have that showed a windswept tree, I could enter "Metadata= windswept and tree" into my search, and this photo along with any others that qualified would pop up in seconds. Aperture (Mac) and Adobe Lightroom give you the capability of doing this. Other programs probably allow this too.
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Re: Camping

Postby dervish16 on Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:04 pm

Mr Darcy wrote:Oh and another thing.
It is feasible to put information into the EXIF of the photo after the event. I added the location data from my GPS after I got home.
It is also possible to add tags, called metadata to your photos while you are processing them. For example I could tag the above photo with:
"New Zealand, holiday, windswept, tortured, tree, (species)" and so on. Then If I wanted to find a photo among the thousands I have that showed a windswept tree, I could enter "Metadata= windswept and tree" into my search, and this photo along with any others that qualified would pop up in seconds. Aperture (Mac) and Adobe Lightroom give you the capability of doing this. Other programs probably allow this too.


Yeah I used Lightroom V3 and saved it as a TIFF and JPEG file. How do I keep the EXIF data on it? I also don't select to have the metadata left on it, so I will next time.

Thanks for in depth answer
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Re: Camping

Postby ozimax on Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:35 am

They're all good, but #4 stands out for me. There's a million ways to shoot a seascape like this and you've done well.
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