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Which to keep?
Posted:
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:43 pm
by stubbsy
I have a problem with these two images of a pair of courting Gentoo Penguins. I really like both shots, but realistically think they are too similar - especially to go in a book of my trip that I'm going to work on next. Over the last 3 months I've kept coming back to them and I'm still ambivalent. Neither is ahead for me.
So I need your help... Which is the stronger image for you, and why?
Re: Which to keep?
Posted:
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:50 pm
by bigsarg7
well IMO, i like them both and can understand your circumstances in trying to choose one, but if it were me i think I would use both, I think it kinda tells a story and only having one or the other wouldn't tell a full story to me. Well thats my opinion, but i love #2 so cute!!
Re: Which to keep?
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:04 pm
by Jenno
#2 is the stronger image for me Peter but #1 is a natural precursor for #2..so why not include both to tell the story..its like a comic strip
Re: Which to keep?
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:02 pm
by Aussie Dave
I have to agree....I think they would work wonderfully together.
Perhaps a square crop to each and displayed side by side, or one above the other.
If I were forced to pick one, I'd have to choose no. 2.
Really nice images and kudos on nailing the exposure in such a tough environment (all that snow/ice) with the subject being black & white. With these examples your book is sure to be absolutely fantastic!
Dave
Re: Which to keep?
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:12 pm
by Chaase
Both of them are fantasic, very slight weighting to #2 but as others have said try to use both.
Re: Which to keep?
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:25 pm
by gstark
Peter,
I'd certainly be inclined to keep both as well.
As Dave suggested, a crop may be in order too, but unlike Dave's suggested square crop, I'd like to crop out about two thirds of the foreground at the bottom.
Re: Which to keep?
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:29 pm
by Reschsmooth
For me, the two images separately aren't as strong as the story told or assumed by the combination of them both.
Re: Which to keep?
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:58 pm
by chrisk
i love #2. i like it the way it is with no crop and personally i think it would lose its visual impact if you either cropped tighter or combined the images. the ice presents a perfect natural border and gives the impression of this sign of life in a vast expanse of nothingness. i would love to see this hanging somewhere in a very large size, its a really beautiful image.
Re: Which to keep?
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:07 pm
by biggerry
Aussie Dave wrote:Perhaps a square crop to each and displayed side by side, or one above the other.
gstark wrote:As Dave suggested, a crop may be in order too, but unlike Dave's suggested square crop, I'd like to crop out about two thirds of the foreground at the bottom.
I also agree that both images should be kept, imo the are worlds apart purely based on the primary subject, the gentoos.
Crop wise, I see merits in Dave and Garys suggestion and a triptych could well be a winner in eitehr crop. However I would consider a pano style crop with both images in a triptych, one bottom. one top. I think the horizontal space provides enough information to convey the sense of space.
Re: Which to keep?
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:52 pm
by Remorhaz
I might be a little different and suggest (if you havnt already planned it out) using the second image as the last shot in the book - it's got that warm leaving end of the story feel. Which would of coursenallow using the other image separately elsewhere.
Re: Which to keep?
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:05 pm
by aim54x
You simply have to keep both!
Re: Which to keep?
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:05 am
by colin_12
I would keep the second as it says more to me. Much more.
Re: Which to keep?
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:30 am
by surenj
both. dyptych. Maybe pano crops each with the birds centered. Then you can put the two pics on top of each other.
Fascinating behaviour!!
Re: Which to keep?
Posted:
Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:08 am
by radar
Peter,
both are great but some kind of a crop would be in order. I suspect you may have a third shot of their interaction action, can you put together a triptych?
If I had to pick one, I would pick #2 but they do go together to tell a story.
André
Re: Which to keep?
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:08 pm
by glamy
I would keep #2 if I could not use both. The second one is more moving when seen with the other one.
Re: Which to keep?
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:18 pm
by surenj
Ah Ignore my idea, I've tried it and it doesn't work!
Re: Which to keep?
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Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:58 pm
by phillipb
Remorhaz wrote:I might be a little different and suggest (if you havnt already planned it out) using the second image as the last shot in the book - it's got that warm leaving end of the story feel. Which would of coursenallow using the other image separately elsewhere.
Actually I would go one step further and use No.1 as the front cover and No.2 as the back cover. The empty space is perfect for titles etc.
Re: Which to keep?
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Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:38 am
by the foto fanatic
I agree with Peter's original assessment that only one of these images is necessary for the project. I'm sure the other one would get a run somewhere else.
That said, I just love #2.
The backs of the penguins are solid black, whereas the fronts are white. The black has a better contrast against the snow/ice in the photo. In addition, seeing the male's arm around the female and the way she is leaning towards the male make a more "aww!" feeling than the other, IMHO.
Should be a great book!
Re: Which to keep?
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Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:59 pm
by biggerry
phillipb wrote:Remorhaz wrote:I might be a little different and suggest (if you havnt already planned it out) using the second image as the last shot in the book - it's got that warm leaving end of the story feel. Which would of coursenallow using the other image separately elsewhere.
Actually I would go one step further and use No.1 as the front cover and No.2 as the back cover. The empty space is perfect for titles etc.
good idea
Re: Which to keep?
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Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:10 pm
by gstark
biggerry wrote:phillipb wrote:Remorhaz wrote:I might be a little different and suggest (if you havnt already planned it out) using the second image as the last shot in the book - it's got that warm leaving end of the story feel. Which would of coursenallow using the other image separately elsewhere.
Actually I would go one step further and use No.1 as the front cover and No.2 as the back cover. The empty space is perfect for titles etc.
good idea
I'd go so far as to say brilliant.
Re: Which to keep?
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Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:46 pm
by ATJ
Add another vote for #1 on the front cover and #2 on the back.
Re: Which to keep?
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Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:28 pm
by Big V
For me number two is a much stronger image by far. Thats the one I would keep.
Re: Which to keep?
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Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:04 pm
by ozimax
Absolutely brilliant Stubbsy. Keep both. Maybe a duel view arrangement? ( eg what's the duo version of a triptych, a diptych?)
These photos are amazing, I can imagine Pingu getting a talking by his mother and then it's all over and away they walk...