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Cordeaux Dam

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:40 pm
by aim54x
Here are a few from today's trip. C & C is most appreciated!

The Gate Keepers View
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BW IR
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False Colour IR
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BW IR pano (highlights brought back, dust bunnies removed, converted to TIFF, stitched, D-light, BW conversion in NX2)
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BW IR pano (OLD VERSION)
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Re: Cordeaux Dam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:48 am
by Mr Darcy
#1 I think there is too much dark space around your window. While using a window frame to frame a view can work brilliantly, I don't think you have hit the mark here. You need something in the surrounds to give it interest. Otherwise you may as well crop. I would go to just barely outside the outer ochre edge. Get just a little bit of the black. I also get the feeling the whole picture needs to be straightened ever so slightly. It gives me the feeling that the it is sliding to the right.

#2,3,4 I can't really comment on these as I have zero experience in this field, but #3 is the only one that works for me. But then I am partial to panos.

Re: Cordeaux Dam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:05 am
by Remorhaz
#1 - as it happens exactly what Greg said :agree:

of the other three I like the first (and then the last) but I think you could pano crop the bottom and clone out what remains of the bush at the bottom right. NB: other than the tree (and not even it enough) the image doesn't "look" like one of those other world IR's to me - it looks more like a monochrome conversion if you know what I mean...

Re: Cordeaux Dam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:07 am
by aim54x
Mr Darcy wrote:#1 I think there is too much dark space around your window. While using a window frame to frame a view can work brilliantly, I don't think you have hit the mark here. You need something in the surrounds to give it interest. Otherwise you may as well crop. I would go to just barely outside the outer ochre edge. Get just a little bit of the black. I also get the feeling the whole picture needs to be straightened ever so slightly. It gives me the feeling that the it is sliding to the right.

#2,3,4 I can't really comment on these as I have zero experience in this field, but #3 is the only one that works for me. But then I am partial to panos.


Thanks Greg...I think the straighten and crop for #1 is in order...I was thinking that myself. I do suspect that you were referring to #4 when you mentioned the pano preference...which I am pretty happy with.

Remorhaz wrote:#1 - as it happens exactly what Greg said :agree:

of the other three I like the first (and then the last) but I think you could pano crop the bottom and clone out what remains of the bush at the bottom right. NB: other than the tree (and not even it enough) the image doesn't "look" like one of those other world IR's to me - it looks more like a monochrome conversion if you know what I mean...


Thanks Rodney. I actually have to go back in to clone out a bunch of dust bunnies in the pano, so I will have a play with getting rid of the bush as well. I am not looking for an "other world" look in my IR, esp when I do a BW conversion, but I guess I may play a bit more with that if I can source a 665nm filter for my EX1 (it apparently is very IR ready according to some web discussion).

Re: Cordeaux Dam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:50 am
by Mr Darcy
Oops yes #4
(#3 of the IRs is my excuse) :oops:

Re: Cordeaux Dam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:55 pm
by surenj
Hi Cameron,

Just to add to the others.

#1 I don't think the subjectthrough the window is very interesting/ has nice light/ or very discernible etc. Good concept though.

#4 Neat stuff indeed. Get rid of the blown highlights though. To balance this composition, I reckon you need a small element in the left lower...perhaps a little plant in the foregorund to frame the image and keep the viewer interested and centred.


Could I ask what brought you to this location? It looks like it's in the middle of no where. Are there any interesting areas nearby?? :wink:

Re: Cordeaux Dam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:42 pm
by aim54x
surenj wrote:Just to add to the others.

#1 I don't think the subjectthrough the window is very interesting/ has nice light/ or very discernible etc. Good concept though.

#4 Neat stuff indeed. Get rid of the blown highlights though. To balance this composition, I reckon you need a small element in the left lower...perhaps a little plant in the foregorund to frame the image and keep the viewer interested and centred.

Could I ask what brought you to this location? It looks like it's in the middle of no where. Are there any interesting areas nearby?? :wink:


Thanks Suren. I think I might have to restitch #4 from JPG (that way I can process out the blown highlights)....I guess I will have a shot tonight. I am a bit wary of editing images prior to stitch due to differential exposure concerns though. Maybe I need to install CS5 and try content aware fill on a patch on the LHS :twisted:

As for the location, we were down in Picton taking images of the viaduct down there, then decided to head towards Port Kembla, Cordeaux was a detour that we spotted and proved to be the most photographic area we visited on the day. We will probably go back and try to visit Cataract and Avon as well.

Re: Cordeaux Dam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:27 pm
by zafra52
I quite like the pano.

Re: Cordeaux Dam

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:58 pm
by biggerry
I reckon with that last pano (s) a tidy crop to remove the boring 30% on the left would go a long way to making this a much stronger composition.

Re: Cordeaux Dam

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:50 am
by aim54x
biggerry wrote:I reckon with that last pano (s) a tidy crop to remove the boring 30% on the left would go a long way to making this a much stronger composition.


I was waiting to see if anyone would recommend a crop.....I have played with cropping variations including both LHS and RHS but was waiting to see if anyone had guidance as I had trouble deciding which crop. your suggestion is promising.