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Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:28 pm
by Mr Darcy
The forecast for the day was for one or two showers. We certainly got that & then some. The good thing about that was that the Falls were in top form, and the glowering skies kept blown highlights to a minimum.
For those of you that don't know the area, there are a series of small cascades on the Jamison creek leading down to the main falls, I didn't take any of the main falls, preferring to concentrate on the lesser cascades.
This one is about three cascades above the main falls.
A five shot pano:
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And another view. Here I was taken by the dragon coming down to drink. I haven't quite pulled the shot off. ANy suggestions?
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This is a side stream coming into the top of the main falls. It is usually dry so it is great to see some water here.
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And the last drop before the main falls. Just above the fence.
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Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:54 pm
by Remorhaz
Hi Greg - nicely done with the pano - the stitching is near perfect. Compositionally I think it is a little too tightly cropped at the top and seems a little more washed out than the others but this could be an effect of the stitching

I think the second and last are my favorites and probably the second most. I don't however like the OOF tree (the dragon) - I think it was a great idea but I don't think it worked in this case - perhaps if it was sharp and taken from further away with a tele (probably not possible :)).

Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:35 pm
by Mr Darcy
thanks for that Rodney.
#1 This is all the stitching process gave me. Also I was trying to avoid the dismal grey sky so even the stitcher did not have a lot of room to play with. I was using primes on the day (until I got down to the 10-20), I may go back in a day or two with the 24-70 & try again at around 35mm. This was 50mm.


#2. Gerry got a POV about 2 paces to the left of where I was. You may prefer his framing. For myself, I am not happy with the execution of the dragon. Again I may head down again soon and try a few things. One thought is to add a little flash fill to lift the log. Another is to get it in focus rather than the Falls. Gerry suggested a slightly lower POV. I will try that too. Further away would be a real challenge. I would have to burrow into the hill.

Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:22 pm
by Geoff M
All nice falls shots Greg, but the 'dragon' in the second aint working for me either. it would be a better image without it included. Perhaps as you suggest a little fill flash would held to gite it more definition and therefore add to the compo?

Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:44 pm
by biggerry
Mr Darcy wrote:Gerry suggested a slightly lower POV. I will try that too.


:up: :up:

The third image is a cracker in my mind but it needs some tender love in the PP side of things. Its a perfect waterfall composition so just about anything you do to it will only improve it.

Mr Darcy wrote:I may go back in a day or two


half ya luck living so close :roll:

Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:10 am
by Murray Foote
Some very nice images. I think I like the dragon best. I think the dragon needs to be sharper which probably requires focus bracketing and my guess would be, manually. For it to be drinking the water I think the viewpoint needs to be a fraction lower so that the lips of the dragon appear to be touching the white water above the falls. May take some trial and error to get it to work. I think the dragon could also do with a touch more shadow detail, so perhaps some exposure blending for that as well (probably not so much for the falls, but then, the lighting will be different anyway).

Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:31 am
by CraigVTR
Some slight tweaking of #2 to bring the dragon into focus as well as the falls and some fill flash as you mentioned would help.

Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:36 pm
by Mr Darcy
I still haven't got back to the falls. I had intended to go this afternoon, but ended up helping a neighbour with his unplanned swimming pool in the front yard instead.

Anyways, I have had a go at a rework of #3
Increased exposure and contrast, then put in a graduated filter to knock back the sky in the top corner. Increased sharpness and vibrance.
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Comments?

Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:22 pm
by norwest
#1 for me, too. The colour in the rocks does it for me.

Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:29 pm
by biggerry
Mr Darcy wrote:Anyways, I have had a go at a rework of #3
Increased exposure and contrast, then put in a graduated filter to knock back the sky in the top corner. Increased sharpness and vibrance.
Comments?


looking much better, ditch the grad filter i reckon, if the sky blows out a bit I think that looks better than a sky with teh life wrangled out of it to try and get the exposure correct.

Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:59 pm
by Mr Darcy
A rework of the "Dragon"
I reshot the photo today. The light was a little brighter so I had to add an extra ND filter to get the slow shutter. It was still overcast but quite misty today. I didn't quite get the same viewpoint, but I did lower the POV, closed up the aperture to increase DOF and used a flash to provide some light on the dragon. However, as it was more than 4 metres away, I think the brighter ambient added more than the flash did even at full power. It was also morning rather than afternoon. I set focus manually & pulled it slightly back from infinity to utilise the hyperfocal distance.

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50mm 1.4; 3"@f/16 ISO100 ND16 (I used ND8 the other day)

Re: Wentworth Falls meet Part 1 - the Falls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:34 am
by surenj
Hi Greg,

I think version 2 is an improvement but feel quite ambivalent about the graduated filter (very obvious) and increased saturation/vibrance because the shot is quite nice from that point of view already. Now it's a little electric green.

#4 is very nice point of view and at the time I wondered what you were doing behind that bush. :wink:

In the rework, the dragon looks much more 3D and works well on it's own but I feel it's a little distracting/removed from the main subject matter...