Page 1 of 1

Greenwich - Shell Refining Terminal...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:33 pm
by Remorhaz
I thought I'd visit somewhere on Sydney harbour that I hadn't been before and so here we are at Greenwich on the north shore. There is a very large Shell refining terminal consuming one side of the Greenwich finger of land along Gore Cove. It was about two hours before sunset so I went for a walk around the headland and ended up here on the rocks beside the southern end of the refinery terminal.

I'd particularly like to know what you think of this monochrome conversion of a scene near the waters edge (both the composition and the mono processing)

Image

and for this image I've taken out the bigstopper (10 stop ND) and put the tripod out in the water and placed it just behind this large oyster encrusted boulder

Image

Re: Greenwich - Shell Refining Terminal...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:18 pm
by PiroStitch
I do like the first image as there's lots of detail there to see, and the boulder provides a nice line to the refinery. Not sure about the vignette or burning the top edge though, as it seems to have darkened one of the towers slightly.

The second image is great with the lower viewpoint. A bit more contrast and vibrancy in the sky will finish the image off nicely.

Re: Greenwich - Shell Refining Terminal...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:57 pm
by biggerry
The BW one feels flat and as Piro mentioned this is probably due to the high level of detail, the compo is good and i would be interested in seeing it in colour.

The second image is quite nice, it has that classic warmed contrast look from the bigstopper which i like. I reckon this could have been a candidate for the 8-16, a bit more water around the oyster rock would have isolated it a bit more and brought it into teh thirds which imo could have it moreso of the anchor point.

nice location too, i suppose asio were watching you ;)

Re: Greenwich - Shell Refining Terminal...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:40 am
by gstark
I don't particularly care for the foreground in the first image; it's competing with the wharf and crane for attention as the primary subject of the image.

I'd be cropping most of this out, and perhaps leaving just a little of the rocks in place, more as a framing feature than anything else.

With the second image, do you have one from a slightly higher point of view? The way that the central rock interrupts the view of the wharf disturbs me, and a higher PoV would relieve this issue.

Re: Greenwich - Shell Refining Terminal...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:39 am
by Remorhaz
PiroStitch wrote:I do like the first image as there's lots of detail there to see... Not sure about the vignette or burning the top edge though, as it seems to have darkened one of the towers slightly.


Thanks for the tip - I'd burnt down the area on and around those two towers because it was too light for me - I've toned that down :)

The second image is great with the lower viewpoint. A bit more contrast and vibrancy in the sky will finish the image off nicely.


Done :)

biggerry wrote:The BW one feels flat and as Piro mentioned this is probably due to the high level of detail, the compo is good and i would be interested in seeing it in colour.


and here we have - firstly the original 0EV image - untouched except for rotation - and then the colour HDR I created (actually it's not tonemapped - it's an exposure fusion) - which probably explains some of the flatness you see :)

Image

Image

The second image is quite nice, it has that classic warmed contrast look from the bigstopper which i like. I reckon this could have been a candidate for the 8-16, a bit more water around the oyster rock would have isolated it a bit more and brought it into teh thirds which imo could have it moreso of the anchor point.


Yep - I agree - I did have the 8-16 with me but unfortunately it's not filter (and thus bigstopper) friendly :(

nice location too, i suppose asio were watching you ;)


Actually... I essentially just stumbled across this place - but the warning signs at the front did say it's under constant video surveillance, etc :)

gstark wrote:I don't particularly care for the foreground in the first image; it's competing with the wharf and crane for attention as the primary subject of the image. I'd be cropping most of this out, and perhaps leaving just a little of the rocks in place, more as a framing feature than anything else.


Thanks Gary - although you know I was going for the whole lotsa rocks in the foreground using the ultra wide angle look...

That said here is a straight square crop of the top (which includes my rework of my burning over the towers that piro suggested)

Image

With the second image, do you have one from a slightly higher point of view? The way that the central rock interrupts the view of the wharf disturbs me, and a higher PoV would relieve this issue.


Unfortunately no - I did take this one from a higher POV facing the other direction but my feelings on it are a bit meh...

Image

Re: Greenwich - Shell Refining Terminal...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:49 pm
by biggerry
Remorhaz wrote: and here we have - firstly the original 0EV image - untouched except for rotation - and then the colour HDR I created (actually it's not tonemapped - it's an exposure fusion) - which probably explains some of the flatness you see


I reckon teh colour version is much better than the BW.

Yep - I agree - I did have the 8-16 with me but unfortunately it's not filter (and thus bigstopper) friendly


ahh yes, fair call.