Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

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Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby biggerry on Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:48 am

I am still trying different stuff with triptych series and hopefully soon i will actually try and plan a triptych rather than conceive it after the fact.

I am interested in feedback regarding this triptych, particularly the choice of image sizes and also the BW conversions.

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Re: Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby Geoff M on Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:11 am

The middle image is not working for me on two counts. First count is the fact that it is taller than the other two, I think it would be better if the height of all three images were consistent. The second count is the angular orientation of the wall do you have a shot where the wall runs parallel to the viewer?

Processing and conversion is very good with nice contrast and tonal range.
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Re: Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby Matt. K on Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:29 pm

Not quite working for me. A tryptich in contemporary terms would be a series of 3 images with a common or connecting theme....not just a common subject, or a landscape cut into 3. The historical definition is somewhat different, any 3 panels that are divided or fold out. The best tryptiches have a strong unifying element for example...a fertile paddock lush with wheat in panel 1.....the same paddock in drought and the third in flood. That's just a crude example. In truth I guess a tryptich can be whatever the author wants it to be....but to create one that stands out from the rest probably will require some conceptual planning. In your example if there was a chicken on the rock in #1....a carton of eggs on #2 and a frypan on #3 then for me I would get the series in a more satisfying way. Hope I'm making sense here. Hope it gives you food for thought. Incidentally....I admire the strong composition you have created with each image. Makes them interesting to look at individually.
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Re: Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby Remorhaz on Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:57 pm

Hi Gerry - I don't mind the different size/shape panels - thats all good for me. I'm not really feeling the images themselves tho - probably particularly the centre one. I like the bold processing tho (it's the sort of think I tend to gravitate towards myself :)).
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Re: Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby surenj on Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:46 pm

I;ve had a few looks at this set.

I don't think the individual images are strong enough. I think they are good (apart from the middle one) but not exceptional. Therefore the triptych is not that strong.

Each of the images are missing one element I reckon.

Re: BW conversions. I can see (or imagine) filter burn on the transition and that makes me think bad thoughts.

Not sure about this one Gerry. What were your thoughts? ARe there any other Triptychs to show??
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Re: Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby biggerry on Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:50 pm

Geoff M wrote:The middle image is not working for me on two counts. First count is the fact that it is taller than the other two, I think it would be better if the height of all three images were consistent. The second count is the angular orientation of the wall do you have a shot where the wall runs parallel to the viewer?

Processing and conversion is very good with nice contrast and tonal range.


Cheers Geoff, the larger size was delibrate which I do not mind, however you are correct regarding the prominent wall with teh angle. I do have a few other images which I may try.

Matt. K wrote:Not quite working for me. A tryptich in contemporary terms would be a series of 3 images with a common or connecting theme....not just a common subject, or a landscape cut into 3. The historical definition is somewhat different, any 3 panels that are divided or fold out. The best tryptiches have a strong unifying element for example...a fertile paddock lush with wheat in panel 1.....the same paddock in drought and the third in flood. That's just a crude example. In truth I guess a tryptich can be whatever the author wants it to be....but to create one that stands out from the rest probably will require some conceptual planning. In your example if there was a chicken on the rock in #1....a carton of eggs on #2 and a frypan on #3 then for me I would get the series in a more satisfying way. Hope I'm making sense here. Hope it gives you food for thought. Incidentally....I admire the strong composition you have created with each image. Makes them interesting to look at individually.


I hear what you are saying matt and thanks for the feedback, I guess one aspect why I am trying triptych images after the fact is due to the fact I am not happy with the singular image or I am tryign to convey more of a certain scene than can be shown in a single frame.

Matt. K wrote:I admire the strong composition you have created with each image. Makes them interesting to look at individually.


hmm, maybe i will try and work with one of thge images by itself, cheers.

Remorhaz wrote:Hi Gerry - I don't mind the different size/shape panels - thats all good for me. I'm not really feeling the images themselves tho - probably particularly the centre one. I like the bold processing tho (it's the sort of think I tend to gravitate towards myself :)).


surenj wrote:I;ve had a few looks at this set.
I don't think the individual images are strong enough. I think they are good (apart from the middle one) but not exceptional. Therefore the triptych is not that strong.
Each of the images are missing one element I reckon.


maybe a much stronger centre image could turn this around, standby.

surenj wrote:Re: BW conversions. I can see (or imagine) filter burn on the transition and that makes me think bad thoughts.

Not sure about this one Gerry. What were your thoughts? ARe there any other Triptychs to show??


there is some transitition there, i could remove it, however I can't be arsed. :roll:
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Re: Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby biggerry on Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:57 pm

I am running out of image options from this session, this is the best I could come up with, I think its a improvement on the BW, but imo still not that crash hot.

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Re: Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby Remorhaz on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:25 pm

I don't think thats doing anything for me either sorry... it's all a bit grey looking so I think the monochrome route was probably better for the conditions we had.

How about something like this for the middle image (obviously the PP is different):

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Re: Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby biggerry on Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:49 pm

I am actually finding the second version to grow on me now...

Remorhaz wrote:How about something like this for the middle image (obviously the PP is different):


trying to fit it in with other images is teh hard bit, the alignment of the horizon is what often gets me. I don't like all those handrails, they are clearly post decomissioning, plus i did not take one from that side its out for me :wink:
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Re: Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby PiroStitch on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:58 am

I still prefer the b&w conversions you had in the first set, though I agree that the second one is a bit out of place.
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Re: Sydney Harbour - Middle Head Fort Triptych

Postby surenj on Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:54 am

Hi Gerry the color versions are better but only #1 is remotely good enough as a image on it's own right. Imagine though it would be improved if you had human/scale silhoutted.

I would not bother backing up the others. :wink: You've definitely done better.

Nice colors in the sky though. Perhaps you can keep the sky for future use. :wink:
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