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Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:34 pm
by Reschsmooth
Thanks to those who helped with my calculations the other day.

I have bought some Tri-X (320) but couldn't buy any instant film to go in the 4x5 back. I therefore used the D200 as a 'Polaroid'.

I was going to shoot the F at an effective ISO of 16 at f/5.6 at 1/60th (with yellow filter).

I set the D200 at ISO 250 (4 stops) at f/22 (4 stops), converted the image to B&W with a Tri-X filter using a yellow filter.

This is the result. My first attempts resulted in a background that matched the tones of the bud too much. So I killed ambient light and let the strobes do the work.

C&C appreciated, primarily on exposure and light positioning. Note, the film image will have much less DOF as it will be at 5.6.

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As far as repositioning the lights, I don't have a lot of room to play with. This is an image of my set up and I am seriously cramped. The ceiling is not much higher than top of frame. There is crap everywhere. :D

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Don't be put off by the tilt in the camera - it comes out straight (at least in the viewfinder).

Re: Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:25 pm
by biggerry
I will be interested to see the film version, lighting POV, its nice and seems accentuated nicely for a lowish key image.

Re: Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:26 pm
by biggerry
oh, and i would like to say no probs with helping out, but, really i was useless, nonetheless, thank you for the insights you have given me into film.

Re: Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:59 am
by Remorhaz
Patrick - my concern would be if the DoF will be as shallow as you anticipate you might not get much of the flower in focus - even here at f/22 it looks like it drops off.

Re: Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:00 pm
by Reschsmooth
Thanks guys.

I will look at reducing aperture by a stop or two, where I can, and increasing light correspondingly.

Re: Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:35 pm
by aim54x
Wow that camera does look very precariously perched on top of that 222RC.

I am eagarly awaiting more images from this camera...this is a very nice start

Re: Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:42 am
by Reschsmooth
aim54x wrote:Wow that camera does look very precariously perched on top of that 222RC.

I am eagarly awaiting more images from this camera...this is a very nice start


Cameron, that image is from the D200 to illustrate what I expected the image from the neg would look like. However, having developed the meg last nit, I think I need to add at least 1 stop of light.

Re: Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:33 am
by aim54x
Reschsmooth wrote:
aim54x wrote:Wow that camera does look very precariously perched on top of that 222RC.

I am eagarly awaiting more images from this camera...this is a very nice start


Cameron, that image is from the D200 to illustrate what I expected the image from the neg would look like. However, having developed the meg last nit, I think I need to add at least 1 stop of light.


Whoops, I misread that

Re: Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:09 am
by surenj
Patrick,

I reckon this cross light is not that awe inspiring and slightly un-natural. How about having a go with a hollywood style light for this flower? Or perhaps a three point portrait type of setup to give it more edge.

Since there is one thing in the frame, I feel that it needs to be epic. :mrgreen:

Could you explain to us n00bs why you chose the hard and soft combo for this still life?

Just a few thoughts as you can polaroid all you want.

Re: Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:12 pm
by Reschsmooth
surenj wrote:Patrick,

I reckon this cross light is not that awe inspiring and slightly un-natural. How about having a go with a hollywood style light for this flower? Or perhaps a three point portrait type of setup to give it more edge.

Since there is one thing in the frame, I feel that it needs to be epic. :mrgreen:

Could you explain to us n00bs why you chose the hard and soft combo for this still life?

Just a few thoughts as you can polaroid all you want.


Good points, Suren

Firstly, what do you mean by hollywood style light?

A poor tradesman blames his tools, blah blah blah, but I am seriously constrained by lack of height, lack of space, and generally lack of light modifiers (limited to brollies, soft boxes and the home made strip light for the SB800.

What I can do is swap the large softbox for a much smaller one. I am aiming for a low key look, almost film noir. I may actually see if I can make a home made snoot for one of the strobes to change the shape of the light, rather than soft/hard lighting as per the current set up.

Thanks for the thoughts and I am going to shoot more tonight (and will develop straight away). I will then take D200-scans tomorrow night for show-n-tell. :)

Re: Am I correct? The 'Polaroid'

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:04 pm
by Reschsmooth
Rigthteo, the 4x5s have been shot, developed and crudely scanned.

Here are two results (all I have done is a crop and making the edge black with a bit of contrast increase).

C&C appreciated. The apparent specks to the left on the first are water drops. The second image doesn't have this.

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This image is the correct orientation. There is the strip light to camera left and the snoot on strobe at camera right, aimed at the top of the bud.

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