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Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:46 pm
by Matt. K
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Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:57 pm
by chrisk
Matt, #1 is a real winner for me. I also love the moment in the last.

Re: Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:10 pm
by Mj
#1 interesting poster but as a whole i'm not sure what the image is saying to me
#2 I like the ducks analogy but somehow isn't hitting the mark
#3 maybe ditto?
#4 has some nice technical aspects but like #1 not sure what the narrative is.

Maybe I just need an early night but on the whole these aren't pressing my buttons quite.

Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:31 pm
by chrisk
Well now I feel like a dumbass...they're coca cola ducks. That's bloody brilliant ! Lmfao
Put me down for #2 as a fave and thanks for the insight mj.

Re: Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:42 am
by TonyT
No 1 out of the ones I say I like this is the best of them all.

Re: Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:23 am
by CraigVTR
#1 and #3.
Is there any reason you did not straighten #3 but left it at the angle.

I get the ducks but only because it was pointed out, I was more curious about what natural force made them align even if it may have only been a point in time.

Re: Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:26 am
by aim54x
#1 is great! I love how the image of the woman is staring you down...getting the 4 images in + the disinterested guy pushing the trolley just really highlights how what is often ignored out on the streets....do you know what those posters were for? someone's work?

Re: Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:05 pm
by zafra52
Vivisection, it's already a bit hard without the merciless
adjective. It reminds one of old times when surgeons
had to practice amputations and open surgery without
painkilling medication or chloroform on their patients.

I prefer the first photo. I like the contrast between the
figures in the posters on the wall and the passerby. I also
think the choice of B&W is well suited. The second may
benefit with colour - water and labels of the floating
botles. I would crop the lady entering the shop third lady
out of the picture to see if this would improve it. Finally,
I would try a sepia treatment on your last one.

Re: Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:31 pm
by Matt. K
CraigVTR
The slight tilt adds a sense of movement and makes the image a little more dynamic. If I squared it up then the figures and background would be more solidly rooted to the bottom of the frame...and that is not what I wanted. I also like the feeingl of a 'fleeting' capture by one who is just passing by that the tilt helps to reinforce.
As a photographer friend of mine says, "there's a time to tilt and a time to wilt". That's the way I like it.
Thanks for taking the time to respond to the images.

Re: Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:29 pm
by biggerry
#3 all the way Matt, however whilst I understand your reasoning for the tilt-age, for me it would be a much stronger image with the verticals vertical and the pavement horizontal. Its a great example of a image that is made purely by the timing, if only one of them had been looking elsewhere it woudl have been a junked image imo.

nice stuff.

The others do very little for me, but I can appreciate the neat aspects to them, ie the textures made by the water and the randomness of teh bottle - whilst they do not do anything for me, I still respect the fact that its harder to take these than what most would probably realise.

Re: Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:47 pm
by colin_12
I really like the third Matt. The concept of head turner gets it for me.

Re: Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:57 pm
by Murray Foote
I can't find anything to say about #5.

#1 is brilliant. I think it would help though to crop it down to just above the wall the posters are on and then maybe in from the left to some extent.

#2 doesn't do a lot for me. I suppose the coke bottles are a metaphor for the poisons we are pouring into ourselves courtesy of multinational corporations and the water then embodies the toxic sludge we're turning the environment into while the reflections on the water embody hopeless dissociation arising from our failure to change this situation - but the composition is too loose and it doesn't really speak to you like a NSW politician on top of a flame thrower. Perhaps you need a seal popping up out of the water bearing a sign in its mouth "This is a metaphor".

#3 works really well. Maybe crop it down to just below the second story and in a bit from the left to throw the female pedestrian away into the mindless pit of forgotten items.

My first thought with #4 was to lose the right-hand pedestrian, sandwich in some dust and burning tyres from a car race meeting for a plume from the rear tyres of the pram and have the Asian woman streaming behind in horizontal position like a helpless participant in a fairground ride. But maybe that would take you more than five minutes.
My second thought is that I think it's too loose. You don't need all the aerilons on the roof and anyway one may fall down and turn the imputed baby into a pile of sludge. So crop down to just above the first one, crop in from the left to match and lose the speaker, airconditioner, portrait of Gina Rinehart, whatever it is there in the shadows and also crop in a touch from the right to get rid of the vagrant sliver of window, or probably better, get Content-aware Phil to fill the sliver in.

And as I said, I can't find anything to say about #5.

Re: Some B&Ws for your merciless vivisection

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:37 pm
by zeddy
1. i like it.
2. doesn't do anything for me
3.i like the most.i like the angle and i want to know what they are looking at. i keep going back to it great photo
4.not sure about this one
just my 2 cents worth

zsolt