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Symmetry

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:03 am
by Greg B
A couple of shots from the Melbourne meet on Sunday. Both have a degree of symmetry. Comments and critiques welcome.

The view from the Shrine of Remembrance looking towards the CBD - in fact, straight down Swanston Street....

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And a view of the Shrine from the side nearest the Botanic gardens

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:55 am
by dooda
Cool clean pics Greg. I like how the geometry is so isolated and clean. They are a tad dark on this monitor I think.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:01 am
by sirhc55
Nice pics Greg - in the first pic I would remove the one person in the pic to give a beautiful isolationist after the war look and it would also be interesting to see this pic in B&W :D

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:09 am
by KerryPierce
I like the first one a great deal. :D I'll have to disagree with Chris, the lone person in the photo adds a great deal to the image, IMO. :P

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:49 am
by stubbsy
Greg

I also like the first one. The geometry of the foreground is a great contrast to the background. The lone figure also works for me.

The second shot I find a little busy somehow, but I can't put my finger on why

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:11 pm
by Glen
Greg, love the first. Your front lawn is just as I imagined it would be, immaculate :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:14 pm
by owen
I like the first one, however I think it could be improved with a big Independance Day-like spaceship hovering above the city.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:53 pm
by Killakoala
I also like the first one better. The symmetry is much better defined than the second pic. I would have cloned out the person, and maybe also the cranes on the buildings too, but that's just me.

Nice shots though, crisp and sharp.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:04 pm
by Neeper
Nice shots! I also like the first one. I agree with removing that person to make it look better.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:31 pm
by PiroStitch
The second one does it for me as the flowers sort of form an arrow pointing towards the shrine. Probably clone out the inconsiderate d70 users from the background though :P

Did you use a polariser (on top of a UV filter) in the second photo as I noticed a bit of vignetting? The reason I ask is I had the same issue on Sunday, which resulted in me taking off the UV filter (bad piro!)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:53 pm
by agriffiths
I like the first pic too. I think the figure provides a nice scale and somehow adds to the expanse of the landscape. Almost looks kinda sereal being so close to the city. That's just what it feels like when you're there... great capture!

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:51 pm
by Greg B
PiroStitch wrote:Did you use a polariser (on top of a UV filter) in the second photo as I noticed a bit of vignetting? The reason I ask is I had the same issue on Sunday, which resulted in me taking off the UV filter (bad piro!)


Correct Piro, and then I couldn't get the damn filters apart!!! Did eventually, but note to self - remove UV before adding CPL :D

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:25 pm
by dooda
Greg,

I'd be lying if I said that never happened to me.
I love the thought of someone else cussing under their breath thinking "damn, I didn't think I screwed it on so tight!?" BTW this has never happened to me.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:41 pm
by PiroStitch
Greg B wrote:
PiroStitch wrote:Did you use a polariser (on top of a UV filter) in the second photo as I noticed a bit of vignetting? The reason I ask is I had the same issue on Sunday, which resulted in me taking off the UV filter (bad piro!)


Correct Piro, and then I couldn't get the damn filters apart!!! Did eventually, but note to self - remove UV before adding CPL :D


I had that same issue as well, then used a different hand and it came off fine....no idea what's so special about switching hands :)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:58 pm
by kipper
Remember, one or the other not both :)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:09 pm
by PiroStitch
Yeh I know that now smartarse :P

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:40 pm
by big pix
Great shots.........but if you used PSCS to make your verticals straight in 1 it would be a much better shot

Cheers

Big Pix

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:59 pm
by sirhc55
Big Pix - I think you will find that the verticals are straight on the buildings working from the centre out. The monument and the flagpoles are not suggesting that this could be barrelling of the lens :D

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:26 pm
by big pix
yes..... but can be made a lot better in PSCS.......

bp

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:04 pm
by Greg B
Yes Big, but I reckon straight verticals are for squares :D :D

All I did was line up the horizontal using the pavers for reference, and everything else can make its own arrangements.

Thanks everyone for your comments. Good bad or indifferent :D

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:11 pm
by Alex
Very nice shots, Greg. I like the first one a lot. I took a few of that view on Sunday but none were keepers. The 2nd photo contains myself in the background :lol:

I find the images just slightly on the dark side - probably my uncalibrated monitor?

Alex

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:18 pm
by Greg B
Thanks Alex - and yes, you are there in #2.

The shots aren't too dark on my monitor, but a couple of people have said they are dark, so maybe my monitor is showing them too light.

Not sure.

cheers

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:59 am
by jdear
very nice photos, love the first one.

Would love to see it at a different time of day - late evening / night, with a bit more cloud action... which way would the sun set in relation to that image?

JD

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:26 am
by gstark
owen wrote:I like the first one, however I think it could be improved with a big Independance Day-like spaceship hovering above the city.


Owen,

Sorry, but don't you mean "it could be improved with a fleet of Vogon Constructor Fleet spaceships." ?


Greg,

Where are the headstones? ;)

I'm wondering about the barrelling in the first one. Apart from the absence of pork (or port) in the barrelling, the viewpoint seems to be quite high. Was this from a raised position (it looks like it was) and was a lower perspective available? I doubt that any perpective change would have helped the barrelling, but you never know.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:53 pm
by Greg B
Gary, the first one is from a very elevated position at the front of the Shrine - there are plenty of lower elevations, but what you pick up on reduced barrelling you lose on reduced spectacle.

It is a great outlook from the Shrine.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:59 pm
by ozimax
Greg, first one is a cracker IMHO, especially the green squares in the front, Max