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Couldn't get this square.....does it matter?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:17 pm
by rjlhughes
Image

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:23 pm
by MCWB
Man, that lens sucks, check the distortion! :shock: :lol: Great shot, like the symmetry of it.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:27 pm
by Jamie
IMO it looks much better the way it is rather than having it square.

Jamie

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:55 pm
by wendellt
It does not matter bob

The top left and bottom right of the grill still align with the corners
framing is right and does not dilute the subject.

The 'found object', repetition and reflections are themes i try consistently capture in my photographs.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:06 pm
by gstark
Bob,

I don't think this would have worked were it square.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:13 pm
by Sheetshooter
Golly gosh,

You guys sure are mesmerised with this diagonal-out-of-the-corner theory.

In placing a subject such as this there are a great many options available as to where to place that diagonal and I don't believe that the choice selected is necessarily the best of them.

In addition to the points of intersection with the corners is the positive or negative slope of the diagonal - I somehow feel that the affirmative option may have worked better given the position of the reflected highlight.

Contrast is also a little low for my eye with a motif like this and the colour in the grille could have done with a knee in the guts also.

It might also prove beneficial to make selections of the asphalt areas and adjust the brightness to something much darker which will showcase the grille and drain more effectively.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:16 pm
by Sheetshooter
Gary,

I would suggest that the reference to square is a somewhat tongue-in-cheek reference to yesterday's discussion of horizons. Of course, looking in plan-view like this the horizon may well be level with just the field of view tilted own so that the horizon is out of sight.

Cheers,

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:22 pm
by wendellt
Shot down by sheetshooter

your right, formulative premeditative framing does not work for all shots,
just adding my 2 cents well 1 cent if that.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:26 pm
by Sheetshooter
You old sheet Wendell. Have sheet will shoot.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:26 pm
by rjlhughes
SS,

right on many points, but the affirmative/negative is my choice....


It was a reference to the spirit level on the camera discussion, of course, but I appreciate the prompt and friendly advice about not being on the level.

I've been simultaneously playing with PS actions on some shots that seem to deserve it, and putting up unprocessed pics straight from the camera. This was unprocessed. The rust colours look as I remember them.

(I've yet to correct my screens with the newly acquired Spyder.)

Research in the Australian yesterday suggests that negative people tend to look down (and think best in that position) For optimists it's looking up that works. And they've confirmed the old NLP idea that it's hard to cry when you're looking up - raising your eyes improves your mood the research says. It explains church spires, and huge stained glass windows I suppose.

It may also be true that you can't be lonely when you're eating spaghetti, but that's another matter.

Hence (in a round about way) the downward inclination - its more interesting when it's not the obvious uplift.

On the other hand I must get over my unconscious obsession with the diagonals in the corners. And posting this shot was a deliberate ploy to get me thinking more about it.

Spirals, I need to look for spirals......huh what was that about premedications and baby formula.....

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:31 pm
by Sheetshooter
Church spires and stained glass windows - for spirals it seems you need some of:

    That Old Black Magic that's got me lovin' the spin I'm in.


Rather than chasing your tail you could shoot your own vortex!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:42 pm
by rjlhughes
Well there's more wicca than christian to my thoughts, and more tao than either.

There's a tao line about water reaching the lowest level too...

Black magic (or any sort of magick) is just a part of the whole shaman tradition of familiar spirits and higher levels. There's a remarkably similar cosmology to shamanism around the world. It's based on the human brain and the way we think of course.

I often think about the tree spirits. There's an old story about a native American shaman communing with the rock spirits. He asked what they said to the tree spirits. Not much, came the reply, we know they're just passing through.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:22 pm
by stubbsy
Bob

It's your shot - who cares how it's oriented as long as it looks good - which this does.

Tnx

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:48 pm
by rjlhughes
Thanks for the comments.....

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:06 am
by gstark
rjlhughes wrote: And they've confirmed the old NLP idea that it's hard to cry when you're looking up - raising your eyes improves your mood the research says. It explains church spires, and huge stained glass windows I suppose.


Ahhhh ..... NLP .....

Let's not go there. :)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:16 am
by rjlhughes
I had a boss who used to say that because he knew I knew when he was lying. (He'd get this passive moment on his face just before).