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The curving thing sorta deceiving the eyes... I quite like it, it's different. And it's nice that I know exactly where that shopping centre is that this was shot from.

And, exposure wise, this is quite a tricky image. What exposure moode did you use for this?

To me, Sydney Tower looks slightly over, whereas the internal arcade (from where this was made) is somewhat under.

I think it would be nice to try to balance this more, but that would indeed be quite a challenge.

great perspective on an often photographed landmark.

Many thanks!

gstark wrote:And, exposure wise, this is quite a tricky image. What exposure moode did you use for this?

To me, Sydney Tower looks slightly over, whereas the internal arcade (from where this was made) is somewhat under.

I think it would be nice to try to balance this more, but that would indeed be quite a challenge.

Quite right!

it was very bright outside as you can see the suns reflection on the clouds is purely white. I concentrated on the tower as the subject and used a aperture of 6.7. I tried with 5.6 and it appears slightly too bright on ISO 200.


Nikon D70
2004/11/17 09:54:10.2
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
Lens: 18-70mm F/3.5-4.5 G
Focal Length: 18mm
Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/250 sec - F/6.7
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: Manual
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF

below-0 wrote:it was very bright outside as you can see the suns reflection on the clouds is purely white. I concentrated on the tower as the subject and used a aperture of 6.7. I tried with 5.6 and it appears slightly too bright on ISO 200.


Exposure Mode: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/250 sec - F/6.7
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto

It's a shame you didn't shoot this in raw. We could have swapped some different curves under the image to see how different contrats responses affected this one.

Are you normally fairly close to that location? I'm just a couple of blocks away from it right now ...


OK ... these are the salient points ... as I see them.

Metering mode was MP - while you were concentrating on the tower as the primary subject, the metering mode was also (if I understand it correctly) looking at the arcade's internals, and they were being compensated for, even if only to a small degree. Switching to spot or centre weighted might have given you a slightly better reading on the tower.

You shot with f5.6 and 6.7; I'd like to have seen it with, perhaps something closer to 8. Would have darkened the arcade even more, but would have also brought the tower and sky back a little.

It seems that - especially were this shot in raw - there would be enough shadow detail in the arcade to pull something back in PP.

Final observations ... I don't like auto wb - just a personal preference - but it seemed to do a good enough job here, and I'm wondering about perhaps dialling in a tad more saturation.

Hi,
Love your image!

I quickly played with your original photo in PS CS. took me less than a minute. Hope you dont mind. (ill delete / edit this post elsewise)




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Im a sucker for sepia atm. Went through and changed all the wedding shots I took of my friend... just for fun!

Postproduction of digital photography can be really rewarding and shots that you'd normally delete can be reworked and ressurrected.

again hope you dont mind me sabotaging your image, wanted to show you that manipulating photos can create multiple effects.

Keep up the sweet photography!
JD

gstark wrote:It's a shame you didn't shoot this in raw. We could have swapped some different curves under the image to see how different contrats responses affected this one.

I guess I could take a raw shot, I'm planning on doing so from the NSW state library later today at around 3.20pm.

Are you normally fairly close to that location? I'm just a couple of blocks away from it right now ...

I'm basically in that building, the telstra.com building (aka australia bank trust building so it's just a step outside.

OK ... these are the salient points ... as I see them.

Metering mode was MP - while you were concentrating on the tower as the primary subject, the metering mode was also (if I understand it correctly) looking at the arcade's internals, and they were being compensated for, even if only to a small degree. Switching to spot or centre weighted might have given you a slightly better reading on the tower.

You shot with f5.6 and 6.7; I'd like to have seen it with, perhaps something closer to 8. Would have darkened the arcade even more, but would have also brought the tower and sky back a little.

It seems that - especially were this shot in raw - there would be enough shadow detail in the arcade to pull something back in PP.

nice pointers, i'd think 8 would be a little too dark but you might be right. The problem was the clouds were moving very fast that time so I had to wait for the right moment when there was sky and cloud to capture both.

Final observations ... I don't like auto wb - just a personal preference - but it seemed to do a good enough job here, and I'm wondering about perhaps dialling in a tad more saturation.

i'm not experienced or savvy on the white balance settings so I'm using auto at current. thanks for your creative input, plenty more of fiddling around to achieve a closer to perfect result.

jdear wrote:Hi,
Love your image!

I quickly played with your original photo in PS CS. took me less than a minute. Hope you dont mind. (ill delete / edit this post elsewise)

I don't mind, it's a creative adjustment. nice to see a difference lighting.

Im a sucker for sepia atm. Went through and changed all the wedding shots I took of my friend... just for fun!

Postproduction of digital photography can be really rewarding and shots that you'd normally delete can be reworked and ressurrected.

again hope you dont mind me sabotaging your image, wanted to show you that manipulating photos can create multiple effects.

Keep up the sweet photography!
JD

How exactly did you do it?
did you use the laso tool on the dark arcarde and then use the histogram level or just brightness and contrast.

jdear wrote:Hi,
Love your image!

I quickly played with your original photo in PS CS. took me less than a minute. Hope you dont mind. (ill delete / edit this post elsewise)

I don't mind, it's a creative adjustment. nice to see a difference lighting.

Im a sucker for sepia atm. Went through and changed all the wedding shots I took of my friend... just for fun!

Postproduction of digital photography can be really rewarding and shots that you'd normally delete can be reworked and ressurrected.

again hope you dont mind me sabotaging your image, wanted to show you that manipulating photos can create multiple effects.

Keep up the sweet photography!
JD

How exactly did you do it?
did you use the laso tool on the dark arcarde and then use the histogram level or just brightness and contrast.

How exactly did you do it?
did you use the laso tool on the dark arcarde and then use the histogram level or just brightness and contrast.

fortunately alot simpler, although you could have a similar effect with much much more effect and fiddling.

now for some tricks of the trade...

changing the image so that the building' internals were lighter - first image was very easy. Photoshop Creative Suites has a few new functions to help manipulate photos.

IMAGE 1
The first image was changed by this process alone:

[1] open image
[2] image > Adjustments > Shadow / Highlight
[3] preview on (normally default)
[4] drag both shadows / highlights slider until desired effect is caused

for this i used something like 75% shadows and 100% Highlights

[5] hit ok to transform image

use whatever looks good. on some images if you up the highlights and shadows too much you get a strange effect. You can click on "show more options" to get really technical.

This feature is a lifesaver! I used to create new layers, up their brightness contrast or whatever they needed then burn the bits in i wanted with a layer mask and airbrush tool.

IMAGE 2
the second image was using the newly changed image, then applying a sepia photofilter. (new to PS CS)

Image > Adjustments > Photo Filter
filter > choose Sepia from the drop down list
set Density to 100%
Preserve luminosity is checked (default)

alternatively you could convert the image to B & W, and then choose sepia, but some of the colours that come out look really nice when its originally a colour image.

The photo filter option has more filters such as: Warming filter (85), warming filter (81), cooling filters, different coloured filters.

I made these operations as Photoshop actions to save time when batch processing (converting many files automatically) when doing my friends wedding photos.

If you dont have PS CS, download a trial version from adobe.com.

Keep on learning,
JD

wow thanks for the bother! -- good information there adobe creative suites is a quite a large addon to the already famous adobe photoshop package. I'm familiar with adobe photoshop cs and the photo filter set.

You can use other sepia tools but that lense filter tool is quite useful I took the green nuclear style photo of petersham reservoir.

I'll give creative suites a go when I get the chance. If you say it only took you a minute.

hey my pleasure, great to give something back to the community, even if I dont own a d70... yet!

JD

G'day,
Wow, like the original shot below-0, and good post processing jdear...

Very nice...

A nice perspective on a Sydney icon. Very tricky to expose properly without resorting to photoshop. I was just there the other day. Nice image.

That’s great PP work jdear
Good job

Any news on when you will get your D70???

Cheers
Ray