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Nikon12-24dx filters

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:20 pm
by stephen
Can someone please tell me what size CPL i would need for this lens as i am thinking of getting it soon?. I have read that it may need a thinner filter than usual as it can vinnegete(spelling?) at 12 ish.Could you also tell me where i might be able to get the filter and what make and model others have used with success. Many thanks in advance Stephen

Re: Nikon12-24dx filters

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:24 pm
by birddog114
stephen wrote:Can someone please tell me what size CPL i would need for this lens as i am thinking of getting it soon?. I have read that it may need a thinner filter than usual as it can vinnegete(spelling?) at 12 ish.Could you also tell me where i might be able to get the filter and what make and model others have used with success. Many thanks in advance Stephen


77mm, standard Hoya CPL will work with Nikkor 12-24, not required the thin 3mm filter.
Sorry, I have no stock of CPL.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:00 pm
by stephen
Thanks BIrdy ,are you saying that the standard 5 mm will not vignette???,If so that will save me buying the ultra at 3mm and probably twice the price :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:02 pm
by birddog114
stephen wrote:Thanks BIrdy ,are you saying that the standard 5 mm will not vignette???,If so that will save me buying the ultra at 3mm and probably twice the price :lol:


The 5mm CPL is quite good on Nikkor 12-24Dx at 12mm.
The 3mm CPL is three to four time of the cost of the standard 5mm.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:09 pm
by stubbsy
Stephen

I have this lens and the standard CPL filter. Here's an example at 12mm. Enhanced, but uncropped - there is a slight amount of vignetting in the corners, but you have to look close! (to see it larger, click the image). For me the extra $ for the thin filter isn't justified. Note that the darkness in top left is the effect of the polariser rather than vignetting.

Image

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:23 pm
by sirhc55
Peter - great shot but it does illustrate the reasoning behind not using a CPL with a wide angle lens :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:28 pm
by stubbsy
sirhc55 wrote:Peter - great shot but it does illustrate the reasoning behind not using a CPL with a wide angle lens :wink:

I take your point and it's always a dilemma for me Chris. The clouds make this shot for me yet they are more striking because of the CPL. Downside is there's that grubby dark bottom right corner and matching top left corner. :?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:49 pm
by MCWB
sirhc55 wrote:Peter - great shot but it does illustrate the reasoning behind not using a CPL with a wide angle lens :wink:

stubbsy wrote:For me the extra $ for the filter isn't justified.

Fixed for you, spot on Chris. ;)

A CP on an UWA lens for reflections I can understand, but surely the above effect (which BTW I think is stunning Peter, love this pic) is far better done in PP than with a filter?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:10 pm
by radar
MCWB wrote:A CP on an UWA lens for reflections I can understand, but surely the above effect (which BTW I think is stunning Peter, love this pic) is far better done in PP than with a filter?


It's a matter of choice and comfort zone I guess. For me, if I can get the picture looking the way I want without much PP, the better, but that's just me and others I'm sure prefer to do the PP. So I'll tend to use the CPL when I think it will be appropriate.

Cheers,

André

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:23 pm
by birddog114
I choose to have a CPL on when needed, rather than playing with PP.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:34 pm
by marcotrov
I can't really comment on what CPL but I thought I'd just brag and say I GOT ONE TOO, today :D Thank you Birddog :) and I'm keen to attach a CPL first chance I get. Do we have a 12-24 DX club on this forum :wink: :lol:
cheers
marco

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:36 pm
by birddog114
marcotrov wrote: and I'm keen to attach a CPL first chance I get. Do we have a 12-24 DX club on this forum :wink: :lol:
cheers
marco


Yes, there's. :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:40 pm
by johndec
sirhc55 wrote:Peter - great shot but it does illustrate the reasoning behind not using a CPL with a wide angle lens :wink:


Chris you raise an interesting point with that comment :lol: The use of a CPL on a WA lens quite often causes this "graduated polarisation" effect. Sometimes it is desirable and improves the image, sometimes it is not and spoils an otherwise nice shot.

IMHO in this case (to my eyes) I think it helps Peter's image. Peter of course had the luxury of taking 2 photos, one with the filter and one without and choosing his preferred image later.

A luxury that the manufacturer of one particular brand of 12-24 do not afford their customers...... :shock:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:10 pm
by MCWB
radar wrote:It's a matter of choice and comfort zone I guess. For me, if I can get the picture looking the way I want without much PP, the better, but that's just me and others I'm sure prefer to do the PP. So I'll tend to use the CPL when I think it will be appropriate.

Fair enough André, and a good point: a simple and fast workflow is almost always better. As you say, what 'simple' and 'fast' mean I guess is an exercise for the reader. :D

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:42 pm
by marcotrov
SOrry to cut in on this thread but it pertains to the 12-24DX just got mine today and all I've managed to do is place a UV filter on front and try it on my camera. Is it normal for the lens to be that tight a fit on the D70? It seems really stiff but gets on compared to my other nikon lenses eg my 80-200 goes on really easy(mind you it's about 2 years old) and has a little play in it once fitted while the 12-24DX grips the D70 lens mount like an arm wrestler :)
cheers
marco

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:42 am
by birddog114
marcotrov wrote:SOrry to cut in on this thread but it pertains to the 12-24DX just got mine today and all I've managed to do is place a UV filter on front and try it on my camera. Is it normal for the lens to be that tight a fit on the D70? It seems really stiff but gets on compared to my other nikon lenses eg my 80-200 goes on really easy(mind you it's about 2 years old) and has a little play in it once fitted while the 12-24DX grips the D70 lens mount like an arm wrestler :)
cheers
marco


Yes, it's, it's still virgin!!!! :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:56 am
by marcotrov
OK birddog I get it :) I'll be gentle :lol:
cheers
marco