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Auto opening of transfer/viewing software

PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:07 pm
by Manta
Hi all.

Not sure if I'm missing something blindingly obvious here...

Is there a way of setting things up so that Nikon Capture opens automatically when I connect my D70 for transfer of RAW images?

At present, I connect, get the 'boo-doong' happy noises from the PC and then nothing happens. Before I installed NC4 and set my camera to USB "P", Picture Project used to open automatically. This doesn't happen anymore.

Ideas anyone?

Thanks,
Simon.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:21 pm
by Onyx
In an open explorer folder, goto menu Tools, Folder Options. Hit the File Types tab. Scroll down to NEF, and hit the "restore" button. That should restore the defaults.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:04 pm
by Manta
Thanks Onyx - but I don't have the NEF file type listed there at all.

The file extensions listed there are: NAR, NCA, NCB, NCC, NCV, NDD, NDR, NFE, NIA, NID, NLV, NNR, NPI, NSR, NTC, NUM, NVC and NWB - all of which open with Nikon Capture Editor. I also have RAW listed, which is set to open with Photoshop.

Seems odd not to have NEF listed...

Thoughts?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:18 am
by gstark
Isn't there a setting in Preferences in NC that lets this happen?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:30 am
by MattC
Gidday Simon,

If you are using Windows XP you can go to the "drive" in explorer, right click, select auto play, select your program, tick "Always do selected action" click OK. Unfortunately, this will only give the option of selecting "copy pictures using Nikon transfer". Anything else would probably require a registry hack. This will open Nikon transfer, click transfer, then Nikon View will open when the transfer is complete. I do not understand why you need to run Nikon Capture when you connect the camera. To the best of my knowledge, Nikon Capture does not have a transfer control other than the one in Capture Control.

Creating the NEF file type in Folder options is a relatively simple process. It should open with NEF launcher. BTW, I set this up using a PCMCIA card, not by connecting the camera. Someone said on this forum, "Why get a $2000 camera to do a $20 job", or something to that affect.

Cheers

Matt

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:26 am
by W00DY
You might be referring to Nikon Browser (if you want to transfer images).

The first time I connected the camera it gave me the option to automatically open Transfer when the camera is connected, however this only happens 50% of the time. Sometimes it opens other times I need to open transfer manually.

Hmmm, not much help was I, lucky I am over 30 posts or I might have been spamming :lol:

W00DY

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:08 pm
by Manta
Thanks, all, for the advice.
I suppose I was just used to 'something' happening when I connected the camera, even if was just Windows asking me what I wanted to do; e.g. open with Picture Project, open with Photoshop, do nothing, etc. Hence I was a bit perturbed when nothing happened after I installed NC4.
I had already added the NEF file type, as Matt mentioned, but thought "NEF Launcher" was just something that Windows XP made up to keep me off it's back. :wink:
Guess I'll just have to be more trusting in future...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:30 pm
by Greg B
Woody, you're a shitstirrer.

Manta, trust no-one.

:lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:47 pm
by W00DY
Greg B wrote:Woody, you're a shitstirrer.

:lol:


I can be, yes... Depends what mood I'm in :twisted:

W00DY

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:59 pm
by Matt. K
Manta
I have the same problem. I use a card reader and it used to open Nikon Transfer automatically but stopped doing so for some reason. What I do now is open Nikon View/Tools/launch Nikon Transfer and get into it that way. I will try some of the advice above and see if that works later on.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:11 pm
by Manta
Of course this will all be fixed with the 1.03 firmware upgrade!! :lol: :lol:
(Manta deftly sidesteps rapidly exploding can of invertebrates)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:18 pm
by birddog114
Hi,
What version of Nikon View installed in your System?
And how do installed Nikon View 6.22? Upgrade from Nikon View 6.2xxx?
I think this issue related to Nikon view, Not NC.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:38 pm
by Manta
I'm at work at the moment Birdy, but I'll check what version I'm running when I get home to my PC.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:20 pm
by Matt. K
Mines ver 6.2.1 It used to open auto but then stopped. And without my permission! :evil: :evil: :evil:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:09 pm
by birddog114
Matt. K wrote:Mines ver 6.2.1 It used to open auto but then stopped. And without my permission! :evil: :evil: :evil:


Try this Matt.
Uninstall 6.21 completely and try the new Nikon View 6.2.3

http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bin/ni ... MQ**&p_li=

regards

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:44 pm
by Matt. K
Thanks Birddog. What has been changed in the newer version?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:24 pm
by phillipb
Support for SP2

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:47 pm
by Matt. K
phillipb
Thanks...Er...What's SP2?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:55 pm
by phillipb
Service Pack 2, the latest windows update from Microsoft.
You obviously haven't upgraded so it doesn't affect you. Good thing you haven't too, it causes more problems then it solves.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:01 pm
by birddog114
phillipb wrote:Service Pack 2, the latest windows update from Microsoft.
You obviously haven't upgraded so it doesn't affect you. Good thing you haven't too, it causes more problems then it solves.


All our PC systems are running with SP2, I have none of any problems so far, I'm feeling more happy than SP1.
All of my Systems (8PCs) are Intel P4/ 3.0 or 3.2GHz/ 1 or 2Gb RAM very decent VGA cards as ATI 9600 PRO or 9800 PRO with 256Mb.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:07 pm
by phillipb
May be it was just a coinsidense but after I installed SP2 I started getting the blue screen very frequently. I re-installed windows without SP2 and I haven't seen the blue screen since.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:23 pm
by Mj
Greg B wrote:Woody, you're a shitstirrer.

Manta, trust no-one.

:lol:


Except me... you can trust me... solid as a wall of brick am I :lol:

Seriously though... I just use a CF reader to manually copy all the nef files on the CF across to whatever location I want on my hardrive.

All this automatic nonense through other progams is more trouble than its worth in my most humble opinion... a simple drag and drop via explorer does a perfectly fine job.

Michael.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:31 pm
by birddog114
I'm still wondering, why do we need to connect the D70 to PC for download or transfer files? Pros & Cons?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:48 pm
by ru32day
My opionon:

Pros: Doesn't cost anything - ie you don't have to buy a card reader. Can't forget to put the card back in the camera before you go out to shoot (before you ask, no I haven't, yet, but I've come close).

Cons: Uses up battery power, slower.

As I already had a flash card reader, I never transfer directly from the camera.

There are, however, some advantages to using third party transfer programs rather than explorer. For example, I have set Nikon whatever (sorry, on the laptop and too lazy to walk to the other room to check name of transfer program) to copy all the EXIF info into the comments field so it can be accessed by programs that can't access the camera maker information. It does this automatically when transferring files from the CF card.

I have another question to ask.

Do other people delete the files from the card at the time they do the transfer, or do they (like me) think the worsts will one day happen, so wait until they're not only on the hard drive, but burned to a CD before deleting them from the card? After the lens case question, Birddog, I'm starting to think I'm paranoid.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:57 pm
by birddog114
Do other people delete the files from the card at the time they do the transfer, or do they (like me) think the worsts will one day happen, so wait until they're not only on the hard drive, but burned to a CD before deleting them from the card?


I always duplicate all the transfered files and left the card intact, will format the card in the camera prior to next use.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:01 pm
by phillipb
I hear a lot that you should always format from the camera. Why is this better?
I usually move the photos to my hard disk and put the card back in the camera, have I been just lucky so far?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:08 pm
by birddog114
phillipb wrote:I hear a lot that you should always format from the camera. Why is this better?
I usually move the photos to my hard disk and put the card back in the camera, have I been just lucky so far?


I used to do that way long before, since I had one incident:

Shoot all day in one of 2Gb card (NEF), checked the LCD and histogram very often, OK,
Came home, plug into card reader, can't read or no files on the card, plug back into the camera, still no files, card emptied. Panic!!!! use recovery software, luckily got all back but it was nearly 1.1/2 hour recovery.
Since then I always formatted the card prior to shoot and never seen any problem again.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:13 pm
by phillipb
Thanks Birddog, as usual I learn a lot from your experiences.
Does formatting the card very often reduce its life span?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:22 pm
by sirhc55
I have read this post with interest and have come to the conclusion that Mac rules :shock:

The main reason I use a card reader is that I feel that the USB connection to the camera is flimsy. On my D1 (which had firewire) the firewire board in the camera crapped out within weeks of purchase due to a short - hence a card reader for the D70

Chris

PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:04 am
by ru32day
Another question, Birddog

I started by reformatting every time, but as the camera kept renaming all the files to start from one again, went back to deleting them on the camera (I never delete directly from the card while in the reader, due to reports of occasional card failures after this, although it never happened to me personally).

Anyway, is there any way you can stop the camera restarting from 1 every time you reformat?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:50 am
by gstark
ru32day wrote:Anyway, is there any way you can stop the camera restarting from 1 every time you reformat?


Yes there is; it's a menu setting on the camera.

Go to the settings menu (spanner), second option is File No Seq. Set it to "ON" and your images will maintain their sequence numbering.



One aspect that's not yet been mentioned in discussing formatting vs deleting is that by deleting, you may end up fragmenting the storage on your card and actually reducing the potentially available storage. Formatting the card eliminates this possibility completely.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:41 am
by ru32day
Thanks, Gary.

That's what I love about this group. On any other forum I'd just have been told to go and R-T-F(riendly)-M.

I truly did - maybe need to re-read a bit every night before bed. Should ensure some sleep, anyway.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:50 pm
by Manta
I've got Nikon View 6.2.3 installed but I still can't get Nikon Transfer to open automatically when I connect the camera.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:43 pm
by MattC
Hello Manta,

Nkvmon.exe is supposed to take care of starting Nikon Transfer. There should be a shortcut in the startup group. Unfortunately I have never been able to get the thing to work either.

Cheers

Matt

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:17 pm
by Manta
mattco6974 wrote:Hello Manta,

Nkvmon.exe is supposed to take care of starting Nikon Transfer. There should be a shortcut in the startup group. Unfortunately I have never been able to get the thing to work either.

Cheers

Matt


Thx Matt. I''ve decided to give the whole thing a big miss for the time being. Life's too short and the more time I spend in front of my PC, the less I'm out taking photos. :wink: When I get over my frustration, I'll go looking for Nkvmon.exe and give it a whirl.

Simon.