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how to find out number of frames/photos taken?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:13 pm
by emilmh
Hi,
Im looking at a 2nd hand 350d but the owner doesnt know how to check how many frames /photos/apertures its taken. The reason i want to know is that a photo guy told me to check as certain cameras only last for so long before the shutter mechanism needs replacing. 350d is meant to be good for approx 50,000 photos (that being 30,000 to 100,000 depending on how its been looked after)

So how do i check?

Thanks for your help!
Emil

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:21 pm
by TonyH
http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/index.html

Download this program and place the latest photo in it. You will then get the shuttercount.

I't freeware.... :D

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:21 pm
by Oz_Beachside
I think Craig told me to use Opanda EXIF viewer.

I downloaded it, its a small tool that displays all the file information, including the camera actuations.

So, get that tool, and ask for a recent photo.

From memory of what I read, the shutter of a consumer SLR has a life of about 100k clicks, and a pro shutter (like a D2) has 1.5 to 2 times that.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:37 pm
by emilmh
My sister has a canon ixus and the photos appear to be named the number they are taken. for example the first photo ever taken is named img0001.jpg and the 1000th photo taken is named img01000.jpg. (or so i think atleast)
Is there no such system on the Dslr's? or the 350d at least?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:48 pm
by Oz_Beachside
by default, the files are named in a numberic sequence.

some cameras can rename the files, like add the name as a prefix. And I think this can be reset, so file name is an indication, but not definite. Also, filename can be influenced by the memory card.

opanda, its free, and accurate, or post a file, and someone can read it for you

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:52 pm
by michael_
TonyH wrote:http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/index.html

Download this program and place the latest photo in it. You will then get the shuttercount.

I't freeware.... :D
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i have been using opanda for a while now, what entry gives camera actuations?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:57 pm
by michael_
Oz_Beachside wrote:by default, the files are named in a numberic sequence.

some cameras can rename the files, like add the name as a prefix. And I think this can be reset, so file name is an indication, but not definite. Also, filename can be influenced by the memory card.

opanda, its free, and accurate, or post a file, and someone can read it for you


and once you hit 9999 it resets, i have hit 9999 a few times already.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:29 pm
by Underload
Just to reiterate what others have said, don't use the filenames as an accurate measure. The previous owner of my Nikon body used this, and I subsequently found out that the actuations were about twice the number reported.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:50 am
by emilmh
ok i got the opanda software last night. i put one of my own photos in there just to check it, but where do i look to see what number photo it is? (or how many photos have been taken)
I get a whole list of info but im not sure what to look for.
is it the "image number"? (if thats the case its telling me that the photo is image number 1515197!! which i dont think it right!?!)
I should be getting an email from the guy who is selling the camera this arvo so i want to be able to check the number of photos and be able to go and look at the camera after that!
Thanks for you help

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:00 am
by ATJ
I don't know what it is on a Canon, but on a Nikon the field is:

"Total Number of Shutter Releases for Camera"

and it is in the "MakerNote (Nikon)" section of the EXIF data.

Re: how to find out number of frames/photos taken?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:25 am
by DaveB
emilmh wrote:Hi,
Im looking at a 2nd hand 350d but the owner doesnt know how to check how many frames /photos/apertures its taken.
[...]

So how do i check?
Unfortunately the news is not good.

While the EOS 1D-series cameras keep track of the shutter count and put it in the EXIF data where software like Opanda can find it, the other EOS DSLRs do not. Canon have some fancy diagnostic software which they don't release to anybody outside their labs, which can extract the data you're after. But I'm not aware of any other way of telling!

You may have to just take a leap of faith...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:17 pm
by Oz_Beachside
sorry for misleading advice, its works for nikon files. Maybe Canon have somehting to hide? :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:34 pm
by methd
i can't seem to find it either... here is a screeny. if i scroll down there's nothing there either.

Image

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:01 pm
by Oz_Beachside
methd, in quick mode, its about 6 rows up from the bottom, called "Total number of shutter releases for camera"

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:55 pm
by methd
gotcha ! thanks... i'm sitting around 14k actuations :)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:26 pm
by Pehpsi
I use my D70 to shoot and Aperture to process, but no matter what i do i can't see the shutter count in EXIF viewer on my Mac? Any ideas on what i'm missing?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:40 pm
by Matt. K
I'm not sure why. A MAC computer you say? Never heard of them! :? :? :? :? :? :D :D :D :D

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:05 pm
by ATJ
Pehpsi wrote:I use my D70 to shoot and Aperture to process, but no matter what i do i can't see the shutter count in EXIF viewer on my Mac? Any ideas on what i'm missing?

Take a photograph in JPEG mode and post it here. We'll check it out with our EXIF viewers.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:28 pm
by Pehpsi
I do shoot in RAW then convert to JPG when ready, maybe this is my problem? I'll fire off a few JPG's and let ya know how i go :)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:29 pm
by ATJ
Pehpsi wrote:I do shoot in RAW then convert to JPG when ready, maybe this is my problem?

Most likely. The information is unlikely to be preserved by the conversion software. You could always shoot with RAW+JPEG.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:41 pm
by Pehpsi
Yep some of the info was getting stripped in Aperture. Shot in JPG and got the file straight from the card:


Camera Actuations: 13692


Thanks for the help :)