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Posted: **Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:27 pm**

OK... I give up trying to understand this :lol:

So if I have a 1Gb CF card and I'm shooting RAW (which average at 5-6Mb each), WHY does my Number of Exposures Remaining read 94 when the card is empty. Surely it should be more like 180-190

Furthermore, why does it read 72 after I've taken 40 photos???

Is this a bug, or are Nikon being overly pessimistic?

Posted: **Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:28 pm**

Nikon are stating the worst possible case. Usually double the remaining exposures is a reasonable guide.

Posted: **Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:40 pm**

A little Nikon idiosyncrasy that we've all experienced.
Onyx's camera FAQs explains it well:
http://forum.d70users.com/viewtopic.php?t=1565

Posted: **Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:46 pm**

Not just the worst possible case.

The D70 saves raw images in a compressed format. The compression is ignored in the calculation of the estimated remaining shots.

Basic rule is trhat as long as the number is greater than 5, you have about double the number or exposures remaining.

While the rule still holds true even as low as 2, at this point yo're running out of storage, and should be ready to swap in a new card.

Posted: **Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:49 pm**

I mentioned this in the camera FAQ sticky at the top of this forum. However I merely reported the anomaly and did not give my personal opinion of how the discrepancy came about.

I'm inclined to believe it's a bug, it's reporting what would be shots available as uncompressed NEFs if the D70 supported the uncompressed format. The estimates are nowhere near the ballpark! JPG is much more accurate.

Consider: D70 only supports compressed NEF. Uncompressed NEF files of the D100 (same resolution, largely same sensor) are around 9-10Mb each (conservatively, 11Mb), which seems consistent with the number of shots indicated by the D70 for the space available on the card.

Working with your example, after 40 shots from a 1Gb card (estimated 6Mb per NEF, compressed) = 240Mb taken up on the CF card.

1Gb being 1024Mb - 240Mb = 784Mb. From the 784Mb space remaining after 40 NEF shots, assuming the consistent but wrong formula the camera uses to calculate shots remaining, of 11Mb per NEF image = 71 shots. That's how much the camera will show remaining, but true amount (784/6) = 130 shots.

Posted: **Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:56 pm**

cricketfan wrote:Onyx's camera FAQs explains it well:
http://forum.d70users.com/viewtopic.php?t=1565

Ooops sorry... I had read the FAQ, but probably skipped over this section coz I wasn't shooting RAW at the time... sorry about that...

I just switched to RAW and immediately noticed the discrepancy...

Consider me enlightened... :lol:

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:27 pm**

... Obsolete ...

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:29 pm**

Yes VK4CP, the problem was fixed in the last firmware update on the D70, and presumably was never a problem with the D70S.

cheers

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:35 pm**

Ooooh, I didn't know the firmware fixed this, hmmm what other benefits do I get from upgrading ?

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:44 pm**

Yes, this problem (which is, incidentally, detailed in the original D70 manual) is fixed in the new firmware.

There are threads aplenty on the other changes.

Cheers

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:46 pm**

Alpha_7 wrote:Ooooh, I didn't know the firmware fixed this, hmmm what other benefits do I get from upgrading ?

Normally an empty bank balance after NAS :wink:

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:38 pm**

I had this problem - but updated my D70 with the latest firmware.
It is very easy to do - takes about 10 minutes from memory.

Immediate changes:

* The menus look different
* The number of images remaining is fixed

I seem to recall that the focusing was slighty improved as well, but I didn't notice this.

I might be wrong, but I think the firmware update brings the D70 upto the specs of the D70s (but without the larger view screen on the back)

Good luck
Gecko

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:49 pm**

Thanks Gecko,
I might give it a go tonight.

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:13 pm**

Craig

The latest firmware (2.0) is here

http://www.nikon-asia.com/

It has many benefits; food tastes better, your hair is more controllable, your partner gets horny, the car uses less fuel and you have a minor but pleasurable win on lotto.

cheers

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:18 pm**

Greg B wrote:
It has many benefits; food tastes better, your hair is more controllable, your partner gets horny, the car uses less fuel and you have a minor but pleasurable win on lotto.

cheers

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:38 pm**

Greg B wrote:Craig

It has many benefits; food tastes better, your hair is more controllable, your partner gets horny, the car uses less fuel and you have a minor but pleasurable win on lotto.

cheers

Bugger, I must have installed the wrong update :lol:

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:40 pm**

Jonesy wrote:
Greg B wrote:Craig

It has many benefits; food tastes better, your hair is more controllable, your partner gets horny, the car uses less fuel and you have a minor but pleasurable win on lotto.

cheers

Bugger, I must have installed the wrong update

Did you install the Asian version, or the USA? I think the USA version has more features

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:00 pm**

I managed to fit 94 images on a 512 card the other day

Posted: **Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:01 pm**

Greg B wrote:Craig

The latest firmware (2.0) is here

http://www.nikon-asia.com/

It has many benefits; food tastes better, your hair is more controllable, your partner gets horny, the car uses less fuel and you have a minor but pleasurable win on lotto.

cheers

When I upgraded my partner from fiance to wife I found the reverse to be the case, I haven't found a suitable downgrade patch to solve this issue :wink:

Posted: **Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:20 pm**

I can see I cannot let my partner view this forum anymore :shock:

Can you guys wait until after the first D2X firware upgrade :twisted:

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