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Workflow with .NEF files

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:12 pm
by Geoff M
Help................!! Prior to purchasing my D70s a week ago, I always used JPEG files which were not a problem for me in storing (Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0) and editing (Adobe Photshop Elements 2.0).

Neither of these two pieces of software seem to recognise the .NEF file format. I am therefore having to resort to importing from the CF card into Picture Project, with limited manipulation in comparison to Elements, and then saving as a JPEG to the hard drive and then importing the file into Photoshop Album. This is a bit long winded and a little frustrating.

Can Photoshop Elements or Album v2.0 recognise .NEF files? There must be a easier and more efficent method of workflow.

P.S. I have also downloaded a trial version of Elements 3.0 from the adobe website which also does not seem to recognise .NEF files. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Geoff

Re: Workflow with .NEF files

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:29 pm
by big pix
Can Photoshop Elements or Album v2.0 recognise .NEF files? There must be a easier and more efficent method of workflow.

In a word NO. These 2 programs do not open .NEF files and yes using Elements 3 should make your life easier

P.S. I have also downloaded a trial version of Elements 3.0 from the adobe website which also does not seem to recognise .NEF files. Am I doing something wrong?

Elements 3 does work with RAW files but I am not sure if you have to download the plugin for E/3 as you had to using PSCS but this info should be on the downloads page of Adobe

hope this helps
bp PS i will have a look at the Adobe site

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:42 pm
by big pix
Checked out Elements 3 and yes it does work with camera raw or NEF files have a look at the video on this link as it tells you all about the program

cheers
bp

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop ... w.html#top

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:45 pm
by big pix
 PS: welcome to the forum......... keep an eye on the Brisbane Gold Coast section, for the odd get together

cheers
bp

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:07 pm
by the foto fanatic
Hi Geoff
You can open NEF files with PSE2 - I used to do it prior to updating to PSE3.
You need the Adobe Camera RAW 2 plugin.
You should find it with a Google search. I don't think it is on the Adobe Support site now.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:42 pm
by mudder
G'day,

Can't Nikon View work with NEF files? Can't remember trying without capture and PSCS installed so not sure of what Nikon view can do on it's own...

Cheers.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:54 pm
by Kristine
Hi Geoff

I have found RawShooter Essentials to be quite good (and quick) at working with NEF files. It is free, so maybe it is worth trying it to see what you think. You can download via <a href="http://www.download.com/RawShooter-Essentials-2005/3000-2204_4-10399351.html?tag=lst-0-1">Download.Com</a>. Let me know what your thoughts are. If you need help setting up your processing parameters, just let me know.

Also, I think that Nikon View is superior to Picture Project. You can download Nikon View from the <a href="http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nikonasia_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php?p_sid=MOjsDzFh&p_lva=507&p_li=&p_page=1&p_prod_lvl1=40&p_prod_lvl2=48&p_cat_lvl1=11&p_search_text=&p_new_search=1&p_search_type=7&p_sort_by=dflt">Nikon Software Website</a>.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:26 pm
by Geoff M
big pix wrote:Checked out Elements 3 and yes it does work with camera raw or NEF files have a look at the video on this link as it tells you all about the program

cheers
bp

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop ... w.html#top

Hi bp

Thanks for the info. I have downloaded the Raw 3.1 convertor but still does not want to open a .NEF file. I need to investigate a bit further!

geoff

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:29 pm
by big pix
This has to be installed in the right area and the old raw converter removed,....... are you on mac or PC

cheers
bp

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:29 pm
by Geoff M
cricketfan wrote:Hi Geoff
You can open NEF files with PSE2 - I used to do it prior to updating to PSE3.
You need the Adobe Camera RAW 2 plugin.
You should find it with a Google search. I don't think it is on the Adobe Support site now.


Thanks Trevor, I have done a quick search via Google and have only found the RAW convertor for Elements 3.0. Will try again for Elements 2.0

Cheers Geoff

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:32 pm
by leek
Geoff M wrote:Thanks for the info. I have downloaded the Raw 3.1 convertor but still does not want to open a .NEF file. I need to investigate a bit further!

geoff


ACR 3.1 will only work with Photoshop CS2... You probably need to download an older 2.x version of Camera Raw... It should still be available somewhere...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:47 pm
by big pix
from the Adobe site:

The Camera Raw 3.1 plug-in is not compatible with versions of Photoshop earlier than Photoshop CS2 or versions of Photoshop Elements earlier than Photoshop Elements 3.0.

To install:

Exit Photoshop Elements.
Open the Finder.
Navigate to Applications/Adobe Photoshop Elements 3/Plug-Ins/File Formats.
Move the existing plug-in to another location (for example, a new folder on your desktop). Ensure you keep this version in case you need to revert.
Copy the new Camera Raw plug-in, Camera Raw, from the download into the same folder as in Step 3.
Launch Photoshop Elements.

These instructions are for "Mac" but there are instructions for PC as well. Raw 3.1 will work in Elements 3

hope this helps
bp PS more info on your system would help ?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:15 pm
by Geoff M
 PS more info on your system would help ?[/quote]

Hi bp

I am running a PC, Instructions for this would be appreciated if you know how.
Geoff

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:50 pm
by Geoff M
Kristine wrote:Hi Geoff

I have found RawShooter Essentials to be quite good (and quick) at working with NEF files. It is free, so maybe it is worth trying it to see what you think. You can download via <a href="http://www.download.com/RawShooter-Essentials-2005/3000-2204_4-10399351.html?tag=lst-0-1">Download.Com</a>. Let me know what your thoughts are. If you need help setting up your processing parameters, just let me know.

Also, I think that Nikon View is superior to Picture Project. You can download Nikon View from the <a href="http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nikonasia_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php?p_sid=MOjsDzFh&p_lva=507&p_li=&p_page=1&p_prod_lvl1=40&p_prod_lvl2=48&p_cat_lvl1=11&p_search_text=&p_new_search=1&p_search_type=7&p_sort_by=dflt">Nikon Software Website</a>.


Hi Kristine
Thanks for the links, I have downloaded both Nikon View and Raw shooter essentials, just need to find the time to browse and evaluate the software.

Geoff

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:38 pm
by big pix
Geoff
Try this link as it has the info you want.........

cheers
bp

http://www.pacific.adobe.com/products/p ... /main.html

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:28 pm
by Geoff M
Hi Guys

What a wonderful font of information this forum is. I now have to decide which is the best option for me to use.

Thanks to all who have offered advice, much appreciated.

Geoff

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:55 pm
by the foto fanatic
Geoff M wrote:
cricketfan wrote:Hi Geoff
You can open NEF files with PSE2 - I used to do it prior to updating to PSE3.
You need the Adobe Camera RAW 2 plugin.
You should find it with a Google search. I don't think it is on the Adobe Support site now.


Thanks Trevor, I have done a quick search via Google and have only found the RAW convertor for Elements 3.0. Will try again for Elements 2.0

Cheers Geoff


Hi Geoff
I still have the RAW 2 file - if you need it, let me know & I can email it to you.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:16 pm
by MattC