Where can I find camera comparisons on this forum?
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:27 pm
Hi all!
I live in Japan, so I have access to all the camera stuff and so on. I wasn't sure where to find information about the D70 and how it compares with other cameras, so I thought I start here.
If you want to skip the intro, go to the part where it says *** DEAL ****.
I've been using the compact digital cameras for some time. One of the things that I liked about my old digital cameras, was how compact and easy they were to carry around.
However, I long for more. Better quality, vibrant colours, great impressions. Plus, I'm going on a road trip so I need something to capture the moments for day, night and for the unpredictable. I feel that getting a DSLR now would be the right time.
I've just bought myself an awesome printer (CANON MP770 - http://cweb.canon.jp/pixus/lineup/mp770/index.html), which prints awesome A4 colour printouts. That will prepare me for an interesting hobby of photo taking and printing.
So, I've looked at 3 DSLR cameras. Here I've listed the plus and minuses for each of them according to my needs :
1. Canon Rebel
+ second cheapest among the three
+ 8 megapixels
+ lightest to the Pentax
+ second smallest to the Pentax
- has a few models which confuses me
2. Pentax *istDS
+ takes SD memory cards (compatible with my phone, PDA, notebook)
+ second lightest
+ smallest of the three
+ cheapest among the three
- doesn't seem as popular as the others
3. Nikon D70
+ touted as the standard for affordable DSLR
+ fast operation
- most expensive among the three (though I found a deal for a second hand D70 which I will mention later)
- seems like the heaviest and biggest (not really a problem if the camera is really better than the others)
- has a claimed moire problem which the other cameras do not have
- seemed a bit old compared to the others
I like the idea of a fast startup camera, one that is ready to take pictures instantly upon turning the camera on.
I also like the idea of taking a few rapid automated shots that's only possible on these high end cameras.
I've no idea about lens, so I will have to rely on the advices of DSLR users. I don't think I will become a serious photographer since I'm not dedicated enough. I still want to take good quality pictures though and am willing to learn the manual controls of a camera.
So, when comparing these 3 cameras
- I liked the Canon for its popularity (meaning that there would be extensive support for it) and great performance
- I liked the Pentax for the small size and SD memory card
- I liked the D70 because its performance is very good, very fast
I like the Pentax and its size, but there isn't much going on about it. The Canon seems to draw me because of the reviews, megapixels and popularity. The Nikon seems like a great camera, but one that needs to be taken with care because its the most expensive as well as the biggest and heaviest. It is also the oldest, is it still king?
Size and weight is not so much of a concern for me, if its good I can live with that. I'm after something that will last me a long time.
*** DEAL ****************************************************
Now here's the deal breaker. Someone I know wants to sell his D70 which he only bought this year (had to sell because he's leaving Japan). He has the following :
1x Nikon D70 body, battery, 64meg mem card , PC software (Picture Project 1.0) and cables
1x Nikon AF Zoom Nikkor 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6 lens
1x Nikon AF Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6 lens
1x Nikon battery charger (100-240v) and adapter plug (JP > AU) ok for Australia, no transformer necessary.
1x NiCad/LiIon battery pack adapter, possible to use readily available batteries (CR2 type) instead of Nikons battery included.
1x LowePro camera bag, possible to fit the camera, both lenses and all accessories in except tripod.
1x VF aluminium tripod and bag, extendable to 1.5m high
So with these, how much do you think it is worth? He is offering under $900 USD. Is that a good deal considering the additional stuff? Are the lens any good?
I think I can trust that the camera is in good condition. It just seems like a good deal considering that the D70 is a great camera right now. I'm not sure how future models can improve on it, does anyone feel that the D70 could be improved? Or is the D70 so good, that it will last for the next 5-10 years?
My apologees for such a long thread, but I am serious about getting a good camera, and with this deal, I just want to know whether the D70 is worth it compared to the others.
Many thanks in advance.
I live in Japan, so I have access to all the camera stuff and so on. I wasn't sure where to find information about the D70 and how it compares with other cameras, so I thought I start here.
If you want to skip the intro, go to the part where it says *** DEAL ****.
I've been using the compact digital cameras for some time. One of the things that I liked about my old digital cameras, was how compact and easy they were to carry around.
However, I long for more. Better quality, vibrant colours, great impressions. Plus, I'm going on a road trip so I need something to capture the moments for day, night and for the unpredictable. I feel that getting a DSLR now would be the right time.
I've just bought myself an awesome printer (CANON MP770 - http://cweb.canon.jp/pixus/lineup/mp770/index.html), which prints awesome A4 colour printouts. That will prepare me for an interesting hobby of photo taking and printing.
So, I've looked at 3 DSLR cameras. Here I've listed the plus and minuses for each of them according to my needs :
1. Canon Rebel
+ second cheapest among the three
+ 8 megapixels
+ lightest to the Pentax
+ second smallest to the Pentax
- has a few models which confuses me
2. Pentax *istDS
+ takes SD memory cards (compatible with my phone, PDA, notebook)
+ second lightest
+ smallest of the three
+ cheapest among the three
- doesn't seem as popular as the others
3. Nikon D70
+ touted as the standard for affordable DSLR
+ fast operation
- most expensive among the three (though I found a deal for a second hand D70 which I will mention later)
- seems like the heaviest and biggest (not really a problem if the camera is really better than the others)
- has a claimed moire problem which the other cameras do not have
- seemed a bit old compared to the others
I like the idea of a fast startup camera, one that is ready to take pictures instantly upon turning the camera on.
I also like the idea of taking a few rapid automated shots that's only possible on these high end cameras.
I've no idea about lens, so I will have to rely on the advices of DSLR users. I don't think I will become a serious photographer since I'm not dedicated enough. I still want to take good quality pictures though and am willing to learn the manual controls of a camera.
So, when comparing these 3 cameras
- I liked the Canon for its popularity (meaning that there would be extensive support for it) and great performance
- I liked the Pentax for the small size and SD memory card
- I liked the D70 because its performance is very good, very fast
I like the Pentax and its size, but there isn't much going on about it. The Canon seems to draw me because of the reviews, megapixels and popularity. The Nikon seems like a great camera, but one that needs to be taken with care because its the most expensive as well as the biggest and heaviest. It is also the oldest, is it still king?
Size and weight is not so much of a concern for me, if its good I can live with that. I'm after something that will last me a long time.
*** DEAL ****************************************************
Now here's the deal breaker. Someone I know wants to sell his D70 which he only bought this year (had to sell because he's leaving Japan). He has the following :
1x Nikon D70 body, battery, 64meg mem card , PC software (Picture Project 1.0) and cables
1x Nikon AF Zoom Nikkor 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6 lens
1x Nikon AF Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6 lens
1x Nikon battery charger (100-240v) and adapter plug (JP > AU) ok for Australia, no transformer necessary.
1x NiCad/LiIon battery pack adapter, possible to use readily available batteries (CR2 type) instead of Nikons battery included.
1x LowePro camera bag, possible to fit the camera, both lenses and all accessories in except tripod.
1x VF aluminium tripod and bag, extendable to 1.5m high
So with these, how much do you think it is worth? He is offering under $900 USD. Is that a good deal considering the additional stuff? Are the lens any good?
I think I can trust that the camera is in good condition. It just seems like a good deal considering that the D70 is a great camera right now. I'm not sure how future models can improve on it, does anyone feel that the D70 could be improved? Or is the D70 so good, that it will last for the next 5-10 years?
My apologees for such a long thread, but I am serious about getting a good camera, and with this deal, I just want to know whether the D70 is worth it compared to the others.
Many thanks in advance.