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by gstark on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:09 am
Ok, they're here! I have a supply of B&W CF cards - they arrived from Poon yesterday. These will be availble from me directly, on a first come, first served basis. As you may have noticed, Peter (Stubbsy) has had one for several weeks, and I think he has been more than satisfied with the results he's been getting.  They are better than switching your camera into B&W mode; they have on board processing that basically emulates a photoshop action and converts the image to a black and white one, and also adds a couple of actions, adding some grain. much better than a simple grey-scale conversion. As can be seen by the image below, these are the digital equivalent of Kodak Tri-X.  You can fine tune the cards too: they come with an ancilliary application that lets you format the cards and specify the level of in-card processing that you want to have done. For instance, you can specify different levels of grain to be added to the image, or you can opt for soft (low contrast) medium, or hard (high contrast) processing to be applied. 8GB only, the price is Au$85 for cards with a Nov 09 expiry date. With correct storage, these cards can be used virtually forever. I have 2 dozen of these available; one per member please; please add your expression of interest in this thread. I will send you a PM to arrange payment details etc. I have a dozen expired cards - March 08 is the expiry date on the cards. Also 8GB, but an absolute bargain at just $10 each. These are the cards Peter used for his images. As you can see from Peter's images, there is no problem due to the cards being expired. Same ordering deal for the fresher cards; just specify in your message which cards you want.
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by MATT on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:11 am
Dam, only B&W.. I was hoping for the Velvia ones to come in..
Oh Well Next time.
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by Oscar on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:20 am
Gary, I can't see these in the bargains section! I'm really keen on getting a B&W card. At $10 I could even accept a card which has passed its used by date - as long as they have been stored correctly.  Mick
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by gstark on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:24 am
No, they're not in the bargains section. These are already (as can be seen in the image) in my hands. The bargains section stuff gets ordered from HKG.
The expired cards are just fine: look at Peter's images.
Mick (oscar) is first on the list.
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by Cre8tivepixels on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:24 am
I will have one thanks 
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by the foto fanatic on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:29 am
I would like one too. Are there any available from fresh stock, or are they all expired?
Doesn't matter if they are expired, as evidenced by Stubbsy's work, but just wondered.
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by gstark on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:34 am
Trevor, two dozen fresh stock in hand.
Mick, did you only want one of the expired ones, or did you want one of each?
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by the foto fanatic on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:36 am
Yeah, sorry! Just reread your post and saw that fresh were available.
I wonder if they are like wine, and need to be stored until an optimal time?
It might be better to get the older stock after all - I just love that look in Peter's images.
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by jdear on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:39 am
put me down for a $10 expired card!!  can I get 2?
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by gstark on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:42 am
jdear wrote:put me down for a $10 expired card!!  can I get 2?
Noted. As for getting two, I want to make sure that there's enough from my stock for all who want them. If we have surplus, sure.
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by TC on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:45 am
put me down for the $10 card. can I have more than 1? if there's any left over. Thanks
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by olrac on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:51 am
What temperature were they stored at? I hear that 3.5 is the optimal temp and extends the life of the card 4 stops past the expiry date.
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by gstark on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:54 am
olrac wrote:What temperature were they stored at?
Anything below 10 is fine.
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by phillipb on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:56 am
Gee, if only they came with Agfa multicontrast paper, I would take the lot. 
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by Mr Darcy on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:58 am
Put me down for an expired one. I'll keep it in the freezer in a vapour lock bag. That should extend its life. One question though: Will it fit in my FM2?''
EDIT: One more question. Serious this time. Now it is April, do they still work? It is not beyond the realms of possibility that they have put a sunset into the card's software.
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by Oscar on Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:00 am
Gary,
I was comtemplating getting one of each...just to compare the two. However, as I had not long ago purchased an 8gb sandisk card, I will just stick with the expired card for now.
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by Steffen on Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:03 am
Using expired B&W CF cards isn't normally an issue. If they are way out of date they might start to show some whiffs of colour here and there, but that's easily fixed up in PP.
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by Bob G on Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:13 am
My camera has a B+W function built in and I'm wondering if I used one of these cards in it -would the double dose of B+W cause any problems?
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by adam on Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:29 am
Can I please have an expired card? 
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by beetleboy on Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:33 am
I had some of these a while back and accidentally left them in my car, when I returned to the car they were fried - couldn't get anything but sepia tone outta the damn things. I'd love a replacement. You're so generous Gary 
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by ozimax on Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:36 am
I will take an expired one please, if there's any left.
Many thanks Gary.
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by radar on Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:07 am
For $10, I'll try one. 
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by sheepie on Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:21 am
Bob G wrote:My camera has a B+W function built in and I'm wondering if I used one of these cards in it -would the double dose of B+W cause any problems?
They'd come out as negatives 
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by adam on Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:29 am
When will the infra-red stock come?
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by BullcreekBob on Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:34 am
I just had a quick google to see if a better price or delivery could be arranged. It seems you had these cards in stock over three years ago. See thread viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3436&p=41066There were no positive reviews on the performance then so I might wait a while pending a more viable and reliable satisfied customer post. Then again, if the price is right, I'm always sucker. Can I buy three oldies on the proviso I only pay after they arrive.
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by Shoot on Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:41 am
Wow awesome, id love to get a hold of an expired card if there are any left please Gary!
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by gstark on Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:47 am
BullcreekBob wrote:I just had a quick google to see if a better price or delivery could be arranged. It seems you had these cards in stock over three years ago. See thread viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3436&p=41066
They were available, but not through us. The technology has significantly advanced since those days (as you can well imagine) and these are significantly faster in terms of i/o speed, as well as usable ISO.
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by Oz_Beachside on Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:23 pm
unless im missing somehting in the technology, I think kodak are clutching at straws to put an expiry date on cards... if available, like a $10 card to play with. 
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by dviv on Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:44 pm
Hi Gary,
I'd be interested in a $10 as well. Will you be bringing them on Saturday?
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by gstark on Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:57 pm
Perhaps now might be a good time for people to check their calendars. 
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by photograham on Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:59 pm
I had already found similar models to these on EBay at $5.00 each, including postage from Central China. Are there discounts available on these for multiple purchases. They are great to use. Much easier than photoshop.
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by jdear on Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:09 pm
Perhaps now might be a good time for people to check their calendars.
yes yes I caught on early but - I was running for a few minutes caught up in it! no fair - my 2nd post was deleted 
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by radar on Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:15 pm
no fair - my 2nd post was deleted 
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by trotkiller on Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:00 pm
I tired to log on at 8am this morning but the site wouldn't load, glad is back up and Gary was able to have his fun... BUT I do remember somebody else doing this one last year.... Well at least something very similar anyway.....just spent 5 mins trying to find Leighs post from last year but can't find it I'd be suing for copyright infringement Leigh Nice photoshopping btw, they look "real"
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by Oz_Beachside on Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:19 pm
gstark wrote:Perhaps now might be a good time for people to check their calendars. 
I thought that at the time, as I couldnt fathom how a card could improve the process at all. I like the expiry idea, I think marketing at kodak would too. hey gary, is that Broken Hill water front lot still available?
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by W00DY on Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:49 pm
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by Aszental on Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:06 pm
whats the advantage of these over doing it yourself in photoshop? wouldn't uhave more control that way?
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by christiand on Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:07 pm
hmhhh, April Fools Day ? 
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by gstark on Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:23 pm
radar wrote:no fair - my 2nd post was deleted 
To be expected for the protection of the guilty 
Exactly. My apologies to all whose posts were deleted, but in the interests of having a bit of fun, that was deemed to be necessary. As a suggestion to those who do catch on but feel a need to let people know that the're in on the joke, rather than just spoiling the fun, think of a way you can make a post, but join in the fun. For instance, Mr Darcy's "Will it fit in my FM2?" seems to me to be an indication that he's aware of what we're doing, but rather than detracting from the fun, he adds quite a bit to it. Now, where are those deeds for the oceanfront land in Broken Hill?
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by gstark on Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:27 pm
Jeff, trotkiller wrote:I tired to log on at 8am this morning but the site wouldn't load, glad is back up and Gary was able to have his fun...
Yes; there were issues at Dreamhost, and that really pissed me off. I decided to hold off posting this at midnight last night, but when I got up this morning, the site was down. Not happy, Jan!. BUT I do remember somebody else doing this one last year.... Well at least something very similar anyway.....just spent 5 mins trying to find Leighs post from last year but can't find it
Yes, Leigh did something similar last year, but I don't think it was for April Fools' Day. And the work that you see here today is all Leigh's handiwork as well. He did a masterful job in photoshop, and I think that the concept of an expiry date on a CF is simply brilliant.
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by christiand on Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:39 pm
Ohh, I'm very sorry. I forgot to mention that this CF card sort of doesn't seem to fit (suit) the D200 It will insert, but the BW features aren't actually working I am getting psychodelic flouro colours I'll have to discontinue using that type of card Anyway, thanks for offering the BW card, when it works it works Regards, CD
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by gstark on Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:41 pm
christiand wrote:hmhhh, April Fools Day ? 
Poisson d'Avril.
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by Nnnnsic on Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:56 pm
gstark wrote:trotkiller wrote:just spent 5 mins trying to find Leighs post from last year but can't find it
Yes, Leigh did something similar last year, but I don't think it was for April Fools' Day. And the work that you see here today is all Leigh's handiwork as well. He did a masterful job in photoshop, and I think that the concept of an expiry date on a CF is simply brilliant.
Actually I did. It was for April Fools Day and was only for my blog. This year, Dad decided to rip off my idea and still have me do the work. And the addition of the expiry date was my idea too. So... in essence... I perfected my own joke. And then made a few of my own. I'll provide links in a few minutes. They're jokes for gamers though, so if you've never played Half Life, you won't have a clue what I'm on about.
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by ozimax on Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:27 am
Done like a dinner....now, where did I put that left handed screwdriver... 
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by Mr Darcy on Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:26 am
What! do you mean I'm not going to get my B&W Card after all? I demand my money back!!!
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by BullcreekBob on Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:20 pm
Nnnnsic wrote:Actually I did. It was for April Fools Day and was only for my blog.
This year, Dad decided to rip off my idea and ...
Yes, last year I thought it was good and I was awaiting this years effort. Consequently this offer, I recognised immediately as your work and I gave you the credit, mentally for it. Bob
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