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ISO 3200 - Canon 5D

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:42 am
by yeocsa
Picture not taken by me.

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Image extracted from http://www.digit.no/wip4/detail.epl?id=59456

Taken with Canon 5D at ISO 3200.

regards,

Arthur[/img]

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:26 pm
by MHD
Kidding??
Impressive if true!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:27 pm
by Raskill
No noise is good noise....

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:54 pm
by pippin88
No noise removal tools used?

Exposure must have been nailed perfectly.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:55 pm
by Glen
Arthur if that is real it is amazing. On the link you gave iso 50 & 3200 look the same. It was never that way on film.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:22 pm
by petal666
it's really hard to tell when the images have been reduced in size so much.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:26 pm
by Aussie Dave
If it looks too good to be true....it probably is ! :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:30 pm
by Nnnnsic
I want some EXIF data if I'm to believe that.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:38 pm
by Aussie Dave
Nnnnsic wrote:I want some EXIF data if I'm to believe that.


except even EXIF data can be edited.

I'm sure all will be revealed in due course. PS. it doesn't have WB Encryption does it ?!? :twisted:

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:43 pm
by Nnnnsic
True, but factors like aperture and shutter speed in omparing both the low ISO and the high ISO could be compared to see if it's possible or even real, and while they could certainly be faked too, it would be helpful to see. :)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:50 pm
by Aussie Dave
Nnnnsic wrote:True, but factors like aperture and shutter speed in omparing both the low ISO and the high ISO could be compared to see if it's possible or even real, and while they could certainly be faked too, it would be helpful to see. :)


Quite possibly.....though I'm sure those people out there that just love to plant the seed of misinformation are well on top of this.

If it is true & is an indication of what is around the corner, we can only expect that almost all future cameras (by all manufacturers) will be pushing the envelope with their high ISO settings.

Can only be a good thing for digital photography :)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:56 pm
by Killakoala
There is enough noise in the photo to assume it is indeed taken at 3200iso, but if it is true then it is mightily impressive. Now, couple the 5D with Nikon glass and there is one hell of a nice outfit.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:31 pm
by BBJ
Cheaper than the D2x as well.LOL

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:50 pm
by dooda
Imagine taking pics at t3200 at 2.8 with VR and minimal noise, you wouldn't need a tripod anymore.

What about this?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:41 pm
by yeocsa
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Take a close look at this one. Canon's is far ahead in the noise arena.

regards,

Arthur

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:47 pm
by kipper
Yep, it's been well talked about before even with prior generation Canons.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:49 pm
by petal666
Once again, you can't see jack on small images.

Re: What about this?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:51 pm
by leek
yeocsa wrote:Take a close look at this one. Canon's is far ahead in the noise arena.
regards,
Arthur


Sorry Arthur... can't seen enough detail on such a small image.. .

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:17 pm
by mitedo
One thing i did like about the canon was the 800-3200 iso range , heres a few shots i took with my 1DMKII in China a few months ago, all shots at iso 3200 hand held no flash & no tripods with a sigma 150mm f2.8 macro lens its all i had with me at the time, i shot around 250 shots on the night all were keepers, from the camrea no PP at all

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:17 pm
by yeocsa
i understand. well, the pictures are not taken by me. They are taken from a camera review website.

However, judging by the images on the various ISO, the noise level is very low and metering is dead accurate. The gap between Nikon and Canon has widen again. At this rate, Canon is far ahead of the pack. The closest competitor in the noise arena to Canon would be Fuji S3 Pro.

regards,

Arthur

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:59 pm
by BBJ
Here is a link to these such pictures and reveiw.
http://www.digit.no/wip4/detail.epl?id=59456

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:01 pm
by Onyx
Arthur, I see you've defected to Canon...

There's nothing wrong with high ISO on any modern SLR camera, if exposed well and you don't clip either end of the histogram too hard (or at all), you'll end up with good workable images.

I personally don't believe noise level differences are all that pronouned between the brands - it's mostly a stereotype. Having tested the D70 and 20D side by side, D2X with 1D2, etc. the differences were far less than what I had been lead to believe, having heard Canon users sprout off the 'noisy Nikon' myth. Examples

Hi

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:20 pm
by yeocsa
i have not defect to Canon. In fact I had defected from Canon to Nikon. I was using 10D before switching to D70. I was comfortable in using ISO800 on 10D. But with D70, I stick with IS0200 most of the time.

regards,

Arthur

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:05 am
by Big V
mitedo, if you have a canon 1dmk11, why are you mucking around with a nikon d70? (as per your sig line)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:18 am
by birddog114
Big V wrote:mitedo, if you have a canon 1dmk11, why are you mucking around with a nikon d70? (as per your sig line)


He suddenly fall in love with Nikon and ditched all his Canon stuff, now he has a handfull of Nikon gears

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:02 pm
by mitedo
Hi Big V i dont have my Canon gear anymore i have sold the lot, im not one for keeping things to long cars boats cameras and toys, life's to short for that type of thing :lol: after using a mates D2X a couple of times is what made me jump to nikon gear i like the colour from the nikon, not to sure if its the camera or the lenes but the colour works for me , i was going to get the D2X but with news of the D200 coming out i might just sit on the fence & wait to see if its ok

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:09 pm
by birddog114
mitedo wrote:Hi Big V i dont have my Canon gear anymore i have sold the lot, im not one for keeping things to long cars boats cameras and toys, life's to short for that type of thing :lol: after using a mates D2X a couple of times is what made me jump to nikon gear i like the colour from the nikon, not to sure if its the camera or the lenes but the colour works for me , i was going to get the D2X but with news of the D200 coming out i might just sit on the fence & wait to see if its ok


Nothing from Nikon will beat the D2x atm, even with the D200, perhaps the new D3x in early or mid of 2007.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:12 pm
by mitedo
2007 :shock: Birddog i could not wait that long :D

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:42 pm
by sirhc55
With pics of that quality I would not have ditched the Canon :D

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:47 pm
by birddog114
mitedo wrote:2007 :shock: Birddog i could not wait that long :D


2007 for D3x is not along way more than 12 months from now,
have you got the Xmas 05 shopping list yet? It's around the corner. :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:47 pm
by mitedo
A few more this time run through neat image

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:20 pm
by genji
japanese website with 5S sample image with full exif data

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/revie ... /2180.html

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:26 am
by sejanus
The d2x noise isn't necessarily "bad" up high, but it does make the image rapidly softer due to noise reduction that you cannot turn off completely. (i.e. even when off, it says it still does it - just less)

The 20d which I have I'm sure also does in camera noise reduction, but it's far ahead of the d2x. In fact when I did my first few tests, I accidentally have the 20d set to 3200 iso and was still impressed by it, thinking it was 1600 iso. The 5D has a larger sensor, and should be even better theoretically.

We have tried using the d2x at weddings at 1600/3200 iso but it's no good, although the noise is a lot more "film like" than the d2h. Frankly IMHO even 800 is marginal. Below that it's fantastic.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:37 pm
by Miliux
Amazing shots there. Can't believe it looks sharp in ISO 3200.

I wonder what '30D' will come up in image quality (high ISO) when released in PMA next Feb.

For now, 5D is too far out of my budget. Most of my shots are in low light situations and often i use ISO800-1600 in D70. ISO1600 is unacceptable - the amount of noise is unbearable and very hard to edit.

I'll just have to sit down tight till Feb for some solid news.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:15 pm
by Matt. K
Another example of the superiority of digital photography over analogue. Just look at the purity of colour and the lack of fuzz and grain!