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Nikon next lineup (short interview with Nikon Exec.)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:59 am
by birddog114
Interesting comment from Nikon exec on what is coming next in the Nikon DSLR camera lineup at:

http://www.dslrphoto.com/2006/03/02/int ... ture-plan/

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:03 am
by Oneputt
Personally I do not see what the fuss about full frame sensors is. :?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:44 am
by moggy
Very interesting Birdy, If I was developing a FF camera I wouldn't admit it either. I really can't see Nikon standing by while Canon produce something they don't. It's not what models you sell but how much of the market you corner that's important...the bigger your market share the smaller your rivals have. :wink:

8) Bob.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:59 am
by wendellt
i think it's time to consider a canon as a second body

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:03 am
by birddog114
wendellt wrote:i think it's time to consider a canon as a second body


Hehehehe! you felt in love with the Canon 1DS MKII which you have seen at last mini meet.

Get it!!! good and nice toy with new set of L lenses.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:06 am
by wendellt
Birddog114 wrote:
wendellt wrote:i think it's time to consider a canon as a second body


Hehehehe! you felt in love with the Canon 1DS MKII which you have seen at last mini meet.

Get it!!! good and nice toy with new set of L lenses.


I had my eye on the 1DS before Leigh got hold of one
anyway i intend to use a canon nikon mount so i can use the nikon lenses ont he canon, got have the best of both worlds, question do i compromise the qulity of the image produced by using a nikon canon lens adapter

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:08 am
by Nnnnsic
Wit hthe way you handle your equipment Wendell, I doubt the equipment would survive long, in complete honesty.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:09 am
by Glen
Nnnnsic wrote:Wit hthe way you handle your equipment Wendell, I doubt the equipment would survive long, in complete honesty.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Wendell, I think with the adapter you lose AF

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:10 am
by birddog114
Pls. note: Nikon lens on Canon mount required an adapter and only manual. Quality of Nikon on Canon, not sure it will perform as the best, but why don't you get the 1Ds MkII and venturing into this new path, let everyone knows what pros & cons.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:11 am
by Greg B
Nnnnsic wrote:Wit hthe way you handle your equipment Wendell, I doubt the equipment would survive long, in complete honesty.


Harsh, but fair.

:D

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:12 am
by birddog114
Nnnnsic wrote:Wit hthe way you handle your equipment Wendell, I doubt the equipment would survive long, in complete honesty.


He trusts Canon will survive on his torture and stress tests than Nikon as he mentioned somewhere Nikon is a lemon. :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:16 am
by dooda
What does it mean to be thinking "to proceed with the flexibility of choice"?
As if you're going to proceed in business and limit your choices? What a strange answer. I guess it's typical when you aren't the market leader.

Nikon really does say very little in these little interviews that they grant.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:24 am
by Nnnnsic
Birddog114 wrote:
Nnnnsic wrote:Wit hthe way you handle your equipment Wendell, I doubt the equipment would survive long, in complete honesty.


He trusts Canon will survive on his torture and stress tests than Nikon as he mentioned somewhere Nikon is a lemon. :lol: :lol:


Seeing as I've been playing with this equipment for a few weeks now, I'm not sure it would survive under the gamut of equipment breakages that seem to occur around Wendell, honestly.

And frankly, I'm not too sure if Wendell would want to spend $12,000 on a body he has no lenses for.

Especially when it'll be superceded very soon by a higher range mp sensor.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:38 am
by birddog114
Nnnnsic wrote:
And frankly, I'm not too sure if Wendell would want to spend $12,000 on a body he has no lenses for.


Surely, he would, coz he's sponsored by one of the top female model which he shot her recently :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:41 am
by wendellt
o.k since the lenses will be reduced to manual mode forget abot it
if i do go canon i will have to invest in a lens system as well

and Leigh I have improved, there was a time i broke things intentionally but now things break around me without my intervention

my attraction to full frame is the fact that the image is bigger better for commercial purposes
low light photography at High ISO on a canon is much smoother and acceptable than on nikon regardless if the image is inherrantly softer
in print large a noisy image shows even though i like noise for my arty images not for commercial stuff

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:49 am
by Greg B
I think that all the interview really reveals is that Nikon executives have been trained in the art of avoiding a straight answer. Which is fair enough where commercial secrets are involved.

Nevertheless, the "tough" questions would have been a lot more useful if they were answered, but there you go.

Of course, there is also a view that the area which cannot be covered with the DX can be covered with a full frame sensor. We do not deny this view, but we’re not certain if it is actually true that the area that cannot be covered by the DX can truely be satisfied by a full frame sensor.


And I think we may have found the bloke who writes the instruction manuals too!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:35 pm
by gstark
wendellt wrote:
Birddog114 wrote:
wendellt wrote:i think it's time to consider a canon as a second body


Hehehehe! you felt in love with the Canon 1DS MKII which you have seen at last mini meet.

Get it!!! good and nice toy with new set of L lenses.


I had my eye on the 1DS before Leigh got hold of one
anyway i intend to use a canon nikon mount so i can use the nikon lenses ont he canon, got have the best of both worlds,


with no AFand no metering.

The best what of what worlds ??? :)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:37 pm
by gstark
Birddog114 wrote:
Nnnnsic wrote:Wit hthe way you handle your equipment Wendell, I doubt the equipment would survive long, in complete honesty.


He trusts Canon will survive on his torture and stress tests than Nikon as he mentioned somewhere Nikon is a lemon. :lol: :lol:


Hardly likely.

The reality is that, in my experience, the build quality of Canons isn't up to that of Nikon.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:29 pm
by Mj
Just read this nikon quote that Greg pointed out... haven't the time yet to read the whole item, but if this is indicative then wow !!!

mmm... just read this paragraph again and all I can say is WHAT THE ????


Greg B wrote:I think that all the interview really reveals is that Nikon executives have been trained in the art of avoiding a straight answer. Which is fair enough where commercial secrets are involved.

Nevertheless, the "tough" questions would have been a lot more useful if they were answered, but there you go.

Of course, there is also a view that the area which cannot be covered with the DX can be covered with a full frame sensor. We do not deny this view, but we’re not certain if it is actually true that the area that cannot be covered by the DX can truely be satisfied by a full frame sensor.


And I think we may have found the bloke who writes the instruction manuals too!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:31 pm
by kipper
I think the photograph of this wanker says it all. Look what the guy is holding for starters. Does he know what a real camera looks like?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:04 pm
by LostDingo
wendellt wrote:my attraction to full frame is the fact that the image is bigger better for commercial purposes
low light photography at High ISO on a canon is much smoother and acceptable than on nikon regardless if the image is inherrantly softer
in print large a noisy image shows even though i like noise for my arty images not for commercial stuff


Wendell, you may want to review the resolution that a D2x has as opposed to the Canon http://www.naturfotograf.com/D2X_rev06.html#top_page

You may be suprised that as opposed to the larger sensor on the Canon does not always translate to a true higher resolution photo and you can blow the D2x images to phenominal sizes without image degardation.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:13 pm
by paulvdb1
I'm a bit surprised that none of you guys made a comment about his "entry level camera" answer. That suggests to me that Nikon may be looking at a lower-cost DSLR below the D50 - maybe they should call it the 30D :D

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:14 pm
by birddog114
paulvdb1 wrote:I'm a bit surprised that none of you guys made a comment about his "entry level camera" answer. That suggests to me that Nikon may be looking at a lower-cost DSLR below the D50 - maybe they should call it the 30D :D


For $500.00 :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:33 am
by Grev
wendellt wrote:low light photography at High ISO on a canon is much smoother and acceptable than on nikon regardless if the image is inherrantly softer
in print large a noisy image shows even though i like noise for my arty images not for commercial stuff

That is probably the only thing and a decisive thing that leads photographers converting to Canon...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:53 pm
by elffinarts
having been watching the change for most of the NewsLTD shooters from Nikon to Canon over the last few years, I'm wondering if durability had something to do with it. A good amount less gear seems to be getting sent back to Maxwell these days for either replacement of repair.

And... the low noise high ISO low light abilities of the 1DS Mk2 blew me away. I'm incredibly jealous of our magaine shooters who use this camera on a day to day basis.