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D80 Press release

Postby losfp on Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:40 pm

Saw this linked on the DPReview forums:

http://www.nikon.com.my/pagearticle.php?pageid=91

Seems pretty much as predicted, a straight-out replacement for the D70/D70s, with the main upgrades being the LCD, MP count and SD (booo!!!)

I don't think I'll bother. the framerate is still only 3, and that SD usage is a showstopper for me.

Save up for the D200 :)
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Postby Glen on Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:45 pm

Thanks Des, very interesting.
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Postby Geoff on Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:45 pm

Nice find Desmond :)
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Postby Glen on Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:47 pm

It shoots B&W for old school guys like me :D
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Postby Yi-P on Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:50 pm

Im not leaving my beloved CF cards behind... boo on the SD, otherwise I would have thought aobut it...


Now, this sets me in for a new glass!! :D
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Postby gstark on Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:51 pm

Des,

SD is the way of the future. The EOS1Ds takes both SD and CF. Expect to see more, not less, cameras using SD.

Some interesting features there ...

Including multiple exposure.

No pricing as yet.


Thanx for the link, btw.
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Postby daniel_r on Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:54 pm

The 'G' has gone VR too
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On face value, it looks like VR-ified combination of the 70-300G and 70-300ED.

It'll be interesting to see some reviews on this one. If nothing has been done optically to this other than add VR...
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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:55 pm

I see some advantages to using SD over CF, other then peoples investments in CF memory technology, and to that I say, times change and you have to move with the changing technology.

I see SD as smaller, simplier and more robust. It wastes less space in the camera and moves the memory further from the sensor (theoritically reducing the chance of additional noise).
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Postby anubis on Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:02 pm

From the article looks like the optical design has changed for the 70-300 with the inclusion of an extra ED glass element (from the ED version) and IF.

Coupled with a 9-bladed rounded diaphragm, low weight , and AFS could be quite nice.
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Postby losfp on Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:50 pm

gstark wrote:SD is the way of the future. The EOS1Ds takes both SD and CF. Expect to see more, not less, cameras using SD.


Oh, I'm sure it's heading in that direction. As Craig says, there's no real disadvantage apart from existing investment in CF cards (and I'm not TOO heavily invested anyway, I only have one 2GB card and one 1GB card). When the whole lineup switches to SD, that'll be great!

When I upgrade though, I would still like to keep the D70s around for a backup (or for Mrs losfp to use), and it'd be nice to be able to use the same media.

Still, I guess cards are cheap, right? :)
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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:30 pm

losfp wrote:Still, I guess cards are cheap, right? :)


And will just keep getting cheaper.


On a slightly off topic point I wouldn't mind the idea of having dual SD cards, could provide a few different options. No down time to change cards just keep shooting, ability to write to different cards depending on the shooting mode or shooting bank you were using.
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Postby MHD on Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:33 pm

No noise craig... Only source of noise is before digitsiation, after that error correction codes (CRC) ensure no information is corrupted...
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Postby Glen on Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:37 pm

losfp wrote:Still, I guess cards are cheap, right? :)


Des, You are right. What I paid for my 256GB card, something like $120 in no way reflects the $12 it would cost to replace it today :lol:
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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:52 pm

MHD wrote:No noise craig... Only source of noise is before digitsiation, after that error correction codes (CRC) ensure no information is corrupted...


Scott its before the digitsiation that I'm referring too, I'm suggesting that any bulky electronics in the promixity of the sensor could lead to addition noise in the end product, by reducing the size and proxmity of these circuits you can afford any E.M. interference. The more isolated the sensor can be to the rest the better in my opinion.

That said maybe they just need to install a little fan or peltier to reduce sensor amp noise for long exposures. :lol: :lol: :lol:

(All thoughts are my own, wild speculations).
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Postby losfp on Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:53 pm

Glen wrote:256GB card


:shock:

;)

Hey, looks like Nikon Malaysia have pulled that page, looks like they jumped the gun a bit and didn't anticipate the sneakiness of some people!! They have all really been slack on keeping this new camera in-house in the last couple of weeks.
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Postby DStrom on Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:54 pm

Glen wrote:Des, You are right. What I paid for my 256GB card, something like $120 in no way reflects the $12 it would cost to replace it today :lol:


256GB ... wow I didn't even think they made those yet :lol:

My main issue is as much as I would rather get a D200, I think I am better off getting some better glass first, so a D80 would free up some extra cash for that.

After all I have been getting by with 3 fps, but I would love a bigger LCD, better AF and view finder!
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Postby Glen on Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:10 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Matt. K on Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:35 pm

SD cards are too fragile. Easy to bend or break and easy to lose. I think I'll stick to CF cards.
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Postby Glen on Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:05 pm

Matt. K wrote:SD cards are too fragile. Easy to bend or break and easy to lose. I think I'll stick to CF cards.


Plus Matt the CF cards work so much better in your D200 :lol:
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Postby gstark on Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:05 pm

Glen wrote:
Matt. K wrote:SD cards are too fragile. Easy to bend or break and easy to lose. I think I'll stick to CF cards.


Plus Matt the CF cards work so much better in your D200 :lol:


If you fold CF cards in half, you can use them in a D80.
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Postby Justin on Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:34 pm

There was a post on the net somewhere - a guy took apart an SD card. The entire memory is a tiny chip just behind the contact pad - the plastic is just so you can hold it! Has anyone ever taken apart a CF card?

What I am thinking, you could just take the chip out of a CF and stick it to a SD sized piece of plastic. What a stupid idea!!!
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Postby Onyx on Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:55 pm

If this is the claimed D70/s replacement, it's had a downgrade in matrix meter (420 RGB segment vs 1005) and the colour analog pre-conditioning in the processing algorithm - meaning white balance settings will affect shots in NEF.

Other than that, it's a nice useable blend of D200 technology in a D50-esque body. The availability of a battery grip is a nice inclusion too.
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Postby digitor on Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:49 pm

Glen wrote:
losfp wrote:Still, I guess cards are cheap, right? :)


Des, You are right. What I paid for my 256GB card, something like $120 in no way reflects the $12 it would cost to replace it today :lol:


Luxury! My first 32Mb card cost me about A$205 when I bought it in Thailand, to go with my new 1 Megapixel (wow, count 'em!) Kodak. :lol:

Ya get that....

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Postby obzelite on Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:57 pm

I could be wrong, but isn’t the max size of an sd card decided by the device. Where as with cf the device just sees it’s as a drive therefore there is no theoretical limit to its size.

Pretty sure my old Olympus could only take an sd card that had a max size of 4gb. Mind you that was when 4gb sd cards cost as much as a car.
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Postby gstark on Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:01 pm

What sort of formatting is used in SD cards?

If it's not FAT32, then the manufacturers avoid dealing with the MS Patent Monster.
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Postby obzelite on Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:18 pm

gstark wrote:What sort of formatting is used in SD cards?

If it's not FAT32, then the manufacturers avoid dealing with the MS Patent Monster.


i could also be wrong with the size, it may have been 2gb which would make the file system fat16
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