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as a result of a bit of a barter/trade with a fella from work (im doing his website for him), i have become the new owner of a nikon f4s! its in pretty good condition for a almost 20 year old camera (in better condition than my d70s...), and looks pretty damn awesome.

i guess some of you are wondering why on earth ive decided to get a film body (i could have got cash for the website, of course)... well having grown up (as a photographer) on digital, the idea of having to shoot a photo and WAIT for the result is really appealing to me. also, being able to shoot 'proper' black and white really intrigues me...

i'm pretty damn excited about it, actually! (as you can probably tell...)

will still use my digi bodies to shoot my paid work (digital has many advantages for shooting action sports... being able to make sure you 'got the trick' being the biggest)...

but i cant wait to waste a few rolls of film on this baby!

and geez... 5.7fps!

anyone else shoot film here on the odd occasion?

Shoot film??? Our film/digital body ratio is 4/2!

I have been keeping an eye out for f4s' or f5's* for a while, but have deferred the purchase pending bonus in a couple of months (they aren't expensive, but I can't justify to Mrs Reschsmooth the need to spend more money on more film bodies).

Enjoy the camera - it is supposed to be a beauty.

Cheers

P


* I realise the inappropriate use of the apostrophes, but wanted to indicate that I am after an f4s, not the plural 'f4'.

Shit film at 5.7fps


Deep pockets y0!


Enjoy your camera mate

Reschsmooth wrote:Shoot film??? Our film/digital body ratio is 4/2!

I have been keeping an eye out for f4s' or f5's* for a while, but have deferred the purchase pending bonus in a couple of months (they aren't expensive, but I can't justify to Mrs Reschsmooth the need to spend more money on more film bodies).

Enjoy the camera - it is supposed to be a beauty.

Cheers

P
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out of interest, how much do f4's get sold for? i have no intention of selling it, but am curious - just for interest's sake.

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* I realise the inappropriate use of the apostrophes, but wanted to indicate that I am after an f4s, not the plural 'f4'.

correct grammer is hardly innapropriate!

Kyle wrote:Shit film at 5.7fps


Deep pockets y0!


Enjoy your camera mate

i think that if i am going to shoot sequences i will definitely need to meter it all with my digi, then shoot the sequence in film...

because yes, with a 24 exposure roll of film, you only get 4 seconds worth of shot!

(and my pockets arent THAT deep!)

jamesw wrote: i will definitely need to meter it all with my digi, then shoot the sequence in film...

Why would you need to do that, don't you think the metering in the F4 would be up to scratch?

jamesw wrote:

Reschsmooth wrote:Shoot film??? Our film/digital body ratio is 4/2!

I have been keeping an eye out for f4s' or f5's* for a while, but have deferred the purchase pending bonus in a couple of months (they aren't expensive, but I can't justify to Mrs Reschsmooth the need to spend more money on more film bodies).

Enjoy the camera - it is supposed to be a beauty.

Cheers

P
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out of interest, how much do f4's get sold for? i have no intention of selling it, but am curious - just for interest's sake.

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* I realise the inappropriate use of the apostrophes, but wanted to indicate that I am after an f4s, not the plural 'f4'.

correct grammer is hardly innapropriate!

If you were selling to me, an f4s would go for about $50 , but on the 'open market' (read: ebay), between $300-$500, depending on condition. So, relative to my current position (impending birth of first child), too much, but relative to the quality of the camera, a steal - although not as good as your price

I second the question regarding metering:

Nikonian review regarding F4 metering wrote:In the hope that I have not confused you much, let me just say that it works like nothing before. It is not until the advent of the F5, with its RGB matrix metering (a meter that also sees color) that a camera meter could be said to have improved upon that of the F4.

P

The F4 meter will eat the D70's for breakfast, I would think.

Filum ... grab the bulk filum back for the body, and shoot till the cows come home.

phillipb wrote:

jamesw wrote: i will definitely need to meter it all with my digi, then shoot the sequence in film...

Why would you need to do that, don't you think the metering in the F4 would be up to scratch?

i shoot a lot with pocketwizards and flashes (usually shoot with at least 2 flashes that are off camera),

so its not so much that the f4's metering is not up to scratch... its just that the exposures get quite complicated and its much easier to get the exposure right by shooting a few test shots first...

gstark wrote:The F4 meter will eat the D70's for breakfast, I would think.

Filum ... grab the bulk filum back for the body, and shoot till the cows come home.

yeah it probably be a much better meter, i guess im using the word 'meter' in the wrong context,

the digi will just let me get the exposure right

jamesw wrote:

gstark wrote:The F4 meter will eat the D70's for breakfast, I would think.

Filum ... grab the bulk filum back for the body, and shoot till the cows come home.

yeah it probably be a much better meter, i guess im using the word 'meter' in the wrong context,

the digi will just let me get the exposure right

You may want to look around, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a polaroid film back for the f4 - I am sure Gary's memory would confirm or otherwise. This can help you with your setup and get your exposures right.

P

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Reschsmooth wrote:

jamesw wrote:

gstark wrote:The F4 meter will eat the D70's for breakfast, I would think.

Filum ... grab the bulk filum back for the body, and shoot till the cows come home.

yeah it probably be a much better meter, i guess im using the word 'meter' in the wrong context,

the digi will just let me get the exposure right

You may want to look around, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a polaroid film back for the f4 - I am sure Gary's memory would confirm or otherwise. This can help you with your setup and get your exposures right.

P

do tell gary!

Even if there is, it's still cheaper to chimp with digital.

Now you can proudly call yourself a camera owner. Yes, you own a real camera just by now.

I do still shoot film here too, tho one of my film cameras is still in the repair without any news heard from them...

Congrats on getting the F4 - a wonderful piece of equipment. What film do you normally use ? Reminds me to take my old EM out for a spin, haven't used it in a while. Don't shoot much 35mm film nowadays, the only film I've been shooting using recently is medium format - quite like using Fuji Provia 100F at the moment in this format.

jamesw wrote:

Reschsmooth wrote:Shoot film??? Our film/digital body ratio is 4/2!

I have been keeping an eye out for f4s' or f5's* for a while, but have deferred the purchase pending bonus in a couple of months (they aren't expensive, but I can't justify to Mrs Reschsmooth the need to spend more money on more film bodies).

Enjoy the camera - it is supposed to be a beauty.

Cheers

P
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out of interest, how much do f4's get sold for? i have no intention of selling it, but am curious - just for interest's sake.

:

* I realise the inappropriate use of the apostrophes, but wanted to indicate that I am after an f4s, not the plural 'f4'.

correct grammer is hardly innapropriate!

I've seen them go mostly for around $300 body only in good condition. There was one a few weeks back that was NEW literally new and never used and that went for $1200 to someone u'd assume is a collector.

hey jimmy if your going to shoot B&W with this bad boy get ilford, preferably the iso125 stuff. its fantastic! welcome to real photography

DavidR wrote:hey jimmy if your going to shoot B&W with this bad boy get ilford, preferably the iso125 stuff. its fantastic! welcome to real photography

Ilford is good, but if you can find some Agfapan .... yummy.

Reschsmooth wrote:You may want to look around, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a polaroid film back for the f4 - I am sure Gary's memory would confirm or otherwise. This can help you with your setup and get your exposures right.

Possibly, but a digital body would be quicker and cheaper. The problem with a D70 is that it doesn't shoot B&W natively, and it's minimum ISO is 200; if you're shooting film, you may want to drop back to 64 or even 25. Not even Polaroid goes down to that ISO of course, and while roll film is getting harder to find, I'd imagine that Polaroid is becoming even thinner on the ground.

DavidR wrote:hey jimmy if your going to shoot B&W with this bad boy get ilford, preferably the iso125 stuff. its fantastic! welcome to real photography

yeah brah, thats what mikey said! gonna pick some up this arvo i think.