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Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:10 pm
by marcotrov
A little help and advice, please.
Income tax time :) So I have been longing for the 200-400VR but still a bit over a grand short of getting it. I have also wanted(insert 'needed' here so we can avoid the 'Do you really need.....' :) ) a D700 or D700s when it arrives(main reason I really could use the 1.5 to 2 stop extra in the ISO over the D300( :up:) as well as the wide angle capabilities of the full frame etc,etc).

Anyhow, I had just convinced( or is that deluded :) ) myself that my Sigma 120-300f/2.8 that i already own along with the EX teleconverters is a terrific lens with speed, sharpness and a few other benefits so really the D700 is the way to go for now. Well I tested the Sigma 120-300 on a friends D700 and to my surprise(actually, bloody annoyance! :roll: ) the exif data on the sample shots I have taken shows that when coupled with the D700 the 120-300 is seen by the D700 as a DX lens and hence goes into crop mode.
I tested this with my Nikon 80-400VR(at same focal distance) and while it shows image dimensions of 4256x2832 the Sigma comes in at 2784x1848. Does this mean the sigma needs a modification or am I missing something here? :?

cheers
marco

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:37 pm
by big pix
the lens may need re-chiping and calerbrating for the latest bodies....... ring CR Kenndy

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:49 pm
by marcotrov
Thanks Bernie. I got this reply from Flickr sigma forum:

Since the D700 doesn't understand the lens' CPU, it's selecting DX to be safe.

Not sure if Sigma has a lens CPU update for this: you can check with them.

Meanwhile, just go into your D700 menus and turn off AutoCrop:
Shooting menu -> Image area -> Auto DX crop -> Off -> OK

Also make sure the Image size setting = FX:
Shooting menu -> Image area -> Choose image area -> FX format -> OK


What do you think Bernie, will it work because I am of a mind to sell the Sigma(as much as I love the lens) and start saving for the 'dream' 200-400VR :wink:

cheers
marco

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:12 am
by Raskill
I noticed this when I first tried the combo. The 120-300 is a 'FX lens', don't worry, it's all good. I never let the body decide what lens is what, as it tried to crop my sigma 24-70 also, which can also be used in FX mode on the body.

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:54 pm
by kiwi
It's all good until you realise that you are back to almost an effective 70-200 on a DX again lol

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:44 pm
by marcotrov
I noticed this when I first tried the combo. The 120-300 is a 'FX lens', don't worry, it's all good. I never let the body decide what lens is what, as it tried to crop my sigma 24-70 also, which can also be used in FX mode on the body.

So when you adjust the D700 menu item to read FX instead of DX when it sees the 120-300 is this set within the camera or does it mean each time you mount the Sigma 120-300 you have to reset the controls onthe D700? :? So does anyone know if indeed you can program the D700 to actually see the Sigma 120-300 for what it is (and no smart alec comments from the 'I hate Sigma fraternity! :lol: ) an FX lens?

It's all good until you realise that you are back to almost an effective 70-200 on a DX again lol


I suppose you are referring to the loss of the crop factor effect you get when this lens is mounted on the D300 as I expect once you change the camera settings so that it sees the Sigma as a full frame lens and not DX then you actually see what the lens is rated i.e. 120-300 on the FX body?

cheers
marco

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:45 pm
by colin_12
You will only need to set the body up once Marco.
It will then just treat all lenses as fx which is what you need in this case. :cheers:

Yes it will see the lens for what it is (120-300). :up:

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:45 pm
by kiwi
Yeah, the 120-300 on FX seems like a 70-200 on DX if that makes sense 8)

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:34 pm
by big pix
marcotrov wrote:
What do you think Bernie, will it work because I am of a mind to sell the Sigma(as much as I love the lens) and start saving for the 'dream' 200-400VR :wink:

cheers
marco


....... Phone calls are cheap, to get the right information...... :wink:

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:51 pm
by marcotrov
Thanks for the responses everyone. D700 about to be ordered :D
cheers
marco

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:27 pm
by inmotion
HI I had to send my sigma to japan for re-chipping
what happens is the Auto detect wont work properly so the fx/dx must be selected manually via menu.My lens was under warantee so this was free allbe 7 weeks to perform.the benefit is that set to dx the lens becomes a 180-450mm
at 8mpix approx.the lens came back spot on and i sold it soon after to fund a D3s but the fix did work well and the combo was terrific in all aspects--VERY underrated
cheers jim

Re: Sigma 120-300 and Nikon D700?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:45 pm
by marcotrov
Thanks to all. Got my D700 and MB-10. As mentioned works great once you tell the camera to treat it as an FX :D
cheers
marco