Switching to Canon

[johndec]

No problems Gary. Please delete my post and your follow up post as I have no wish to create any friction. (and of course this post)

[makario]

Welcome to the Canon club.... boy I wish I could get some new toys... its been a lonnnnggggg couple of months since my last purchase sigh...

EF 70-200 L IS USM... my dream lens. Please post some pickies.

Enjoy your new toys

Cheers
Mak

[ozczecho]

Moz, mildly humorous but it's an unwritten code here not to post dpreview type replies.

Actually, it's a written and enforced code that we don't post stuff that's too negative.

I'm happy with Moz's post in this instance, I don't see it as being OTT.

When I read moz reply, I thought OK flame bait, but then looked at the sig and its full of Canon gear. Its all good.

[MATT]

Been at work all day.. First aid training.. Is anyone going into shock over this? cause I can help.

Of course it would be quicker to call the ambo's..

Anyway get back from dinner and take some shots and post them up..
Got to love new toys


enjoy

MATT

[Greg B]

..... since I've never seen one with a silver shutter button.

Perhaps you could use one of the thirty pieces that came with the deal to make your own silver shutter button?

[gstark]

No problems Gary. Please delete my post and your follow up post as I have no wish to create any friction. (and of course this post)

John,

I don't really see that anyone will take any of these the wrong way, and I'm really not seeing any friction being generated through what you've said.

[johndec]

When I read moz reply, I thought OK flame bait, but then looked at the sig and its full of Canon gear. Its all good.

Damm, didn't notice the sig. I am a Grade A idiot. Sorry Moz.

[mic]

Have fun with your great new gear you lucky Bastard !

I too have been thinking of that Canon, but just can't justify at the moment

Can't wait to see your new talent explode Stubbsy.

Mic

[MATT]

Is it just me or the D70 starting to seem like "OLD SCHOOL"


MATT

[gstark]

Is it just me or the D70 starting to seem like "OLD SCHOOL"

Matt,

That's the wrong question. I have n FTn that's definitely old school, but it's still perfectly functional, and functions perfectly.

The correct question though is have you outgrown the featureset of your D70? If so, then it may be appropriate justification to look to something newer.

If not, then just be careful to avioid stepping in that smelly pile of marketing.

[moz]

When I read moz reply, I thought OK flame bait, but then looked at the sig and its full of Canon gear. Its all good.

Ok, sorry, won't repeat.

And you're right, there is at least one expensive lens in my kit.

[kipper]

I'd like to get another 1.75years out of my D70, so far it's done me for 1yr3mths and I think it's got a lot more in it yet.

[Andyt]

Is it just me or the D70 starting to seem like "OLD SCHOOL"


MATT

You are not alone, I am thinking of upgrading to D200, but having a battle with myself as to what I would gain with the level of photography I do.

The only real justification I can come up with at the moment is that a second body for me makes sense as I am in a remote area. A weekend jaunt for me can be up to 600Ks return. Would hate to have a body (camera) failure and return home with only the memories instead of the pics. I suspect I will place an order soon.

[fozzie]

I have just arrived home from work via meeting up with rookie2 for CCD Sensor Cleaning of his D70s, and read this post
Stubbsy has already moved to Canon with the '5D' and Glen has one arriving on Friday.

Come on Stubbsy, let as into the secret deal

Well the deal was brilliant (unfortunately I can't say how brilliant since that was part of the deal - suffice it to say I felt like I was stealing

[kipper]

So Glen is jumping ship too.....lol

[leek]

I'm astounded Peter... You're the last person that I expected to hear this from...

[cyanide]

Did I miss Glen's announcement, or is he lying low with this for a while...?

[Nnnnsic]

I feel like I'm getting a hell of a lot out of my D70... and I doubt having a D200 or D2h (which is the one I'd consider) would make my photography any better.

The tool doesn't make you better.

[Nnnnsic]

Note to Admins. We need a WTF emoticon!

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[pharmer]

I feel like I'm getting a hell of a lot out of my D70... and I doubt having a D200 or D2h (which is the one I'd consider) would make my photography any better.

The tool doesn't make you better.

Very true Leigh.

I too have looked at the 5D and D200 (gear lust) but I am very happy with the quality of the D50.

I think most people could not tell the difference between any of these cameras on even a decent size print

I got my rabbit skull image printed out on A2. Not a rough pixel or jagged edge to be seen - not bad for a 6.1 mp "cheapie"

[Grev]

Can someone tell me who is selling the cheap Canon gear?

Congratulations on the switch though, will be interesting to see how a previous Nikon user will see through Canon's eyes.

[birddog114]

Can someone tell me who is selling the cheap Canon gear?

Congratulations on the switch though, will be interesting to see how a previous Nikon user will see through Canon's eyes.

Prices & deals + conditions will be revealed soon on this board and will offer to all qualified members who wishes to come with Canon from originally Nikon.

To start with, a top special Canon deals with lenses are only offered to a limited number of people on this board (The Top Gun )as trial and this deal is directed from Canon Australia.

[MATT]

Can someone tell me who is selling the cheap Canon gear?

Congratulations on the switch though, will be interesting to see how a previous Nikon user will see through Canon's eyes.

Prices & deals + conditions will be revealed soon on this board and will offer to all qualified members who wishes to come with Canon from originally Nikon.

To start with, a top special Canon deals with lenses are only offered to a limited number of people on this board (The Top Gun )as trial and this deal is directed from Canon Australia.

Birdy you never fail to surprise

MATT

[Aussie Dave]

I feel like I'm getting a hell of a lot out of my D70... and I doubt having a D200 or D2h (which is the one I'd consider) would make my photography any better.

The tool doesn't make you better.

Amen Leigh ! I couldn't have said it better myself

It's often amusing that so many people bag the marketing departments of Nikon & Canon etc. however they seem to be able to persuade people into thinking they need the latest body on the market, without really doing much at all.

I'd really be interested to see what percentage of us really think they have outgrown their D70.

[EDIT] I thought it best to start another thread on this. I did not want to hijack Peter's thread. Anyone wishing to reply, please do so via the new thread I started HERE

[LostDingo]

I feel like I'm getting a hell of a lot out of my D70... and I doubt having a D200 or D2h (which is the one I'd consider) would make my photography any better.

The tool doesn't make you better.

It's not the "tool" but how you use it

[Catcha]

Peter,

Congrats on the new move. I certainly am more confused with which is better now Canon or Nikon. Tell ya if Birdy crosses over as well we might as well name this a Canon forum


Like LostDingo said It's not the "tool" but how you use it. Looking forward to seeing more of you stunning shots

[birddog114]

I feel like I'm getting a hell of a lot out of my D70... and I doubt having a D200 or D2h (which is the one I'd consider) would make my photography any better.

The tool doesn't make you better.

Leigh,
I'm not saying about the D200 vs D70, we had many says and POV about these two bodies.

It's definitely, with the D2 series, a better tool will help you alot and depend on what area or field of photography which you're heading to.

[birddog114]

Peter,

Congrats on the new move. I certainly am more confused with which is better now Canon or Nikon.

They're both best systems, but it's up to the users and their skills

Tell ya if Birdy crosses over as well we might as well name this a Canon forum

Definitely, it's not a go go and will never happened, maybe more Canon users than Nikon users as we have seen or at least 50/50.

[kipper]

As Leigh said. While I don't feel I need the latest and greatest camera body out there because I feel the D70 is doing it's job for the time being. I would like a bit more space to crop in because with the photography I do, getting closer isn't always an option either by the behaviour of the subject or limiting environmental factors (eg. water). The only thing I'd really like is VR or IS on my main lens. From what I can see of the Canon system the IS on their lenses is absolutely superb. I find it hard to get sharp results consistantly when using the 500MM on flight shots (with a shutter speed over 1/1000th) but there are guys that do with the equivalent Canon lens with IS.

[sheepie]

To start with, a top special Canon deals with lenses are only offered to a limited number of people on this board (The Top Gun )as trial and this deal is directed from Canon Australia.

This is sounding more and more fishy. What the hell's going on here? Surely Canon does not think this board is important enough to offer 'buyout' deals. Don't like the sound of this.

[kipper]

Hey I'm up for it, I might come back to Australia to collect on my tradein lol

[Nnnnsic]

It's definitely, with the D2 series, a better tool will help you alot and depend on what area or field of photography which you're heading to.

Yes, but aside for megapixels, it won't do much to take your pictures better.

If you suck with a D70, you're going to suck with either a D2x or a 1DsMk2.

There's no getting around that.

[Catcha]

It's definitely, with the D2 series, a better tool will help you alot and depend on what area or field of photography which you're heading to.

Yes, but aside for megapixels, it won't do much to take your pictures better.

If you suck with a D70, you're going to suck with either a D2x or a 1DsMk2.

There's no getting around that.

hahah thats Gold reminds me of myself

[Heath Bennett]

I am a little jealous - Full Frame would be great, especially with the Nikon 28-70 and 17-35 when it happens here!

I will not be fully content with Nikon untll a perfect wide angle DX is released. 12-24 does very well in the meantime though.

FF viewfinder will be a world away from the D70 you are used to Stubbsy!

Are you selling your loved 10.5 DX?

The thing that I would be most concerned about isn't vignetting, but rather AF speed and AF in low light. Photography is about the moment, so only the best AF will do. I haven't read into the 5D's capabilities here... but the D2x is impeccable. This is the main truth in "better camera can make better pictures". If you can't get focus, you can't even get pics!

It is a good thing that you haven't been spoiled by above 3fps! But, in my memory, this doesn't really matter with your shooting style.

Good luck with your new purchases, you have to love that "christmas" feeling when you can't concentrate on anything else!

[birddog114]

His Nikkor 10.5 FE had a new good home few days ago.

[glamy]

I am a little jealous - Full Frame would be great, especially with the Nikon 28-70 and 17-35 when it happens here!

That's why I invested in these lenses. I suck with a D70 and will suck with a D200, but I will enjoy myself a bit more and give me renewed interest in getting out.
Cheers,
Gerard

[DaveB]

If you suck with a D70, you're going to suck with either a D2x or a 1DsMk2.

I guess with a fancy new camera we would all like to think we're going to suck less instead of sucking harder...

[Nnnnsic]

If you suck with a D70, you're going to suck with either a D2x or a 1DsMk2.

I guess with a fancy new camera we would all like to think we're going to suck less instead of sucking harder...

Doubtful. That's just being dellusional.

Your wallet, on the other hand, completely understands.

[stubbsy]

Congratulations on the switch though, will be interesting to see how a previous Nikon user will see through Canon's eyes.

The biggest thing that stands out when you pick up a Canon dslr is that the way you access and control its menu system is waaaay different to the Nikon one. IT feels really awkward. I'm guessing a Canon user picking up a Nikon dslr thinks the same about the Nikon menu system and its navigation. The other noticeable immediate difference is that the Canon turns off when you open the CF card door. At first I though this was a good thing, but you lose any data in the camera buffer when you do it (which is a bad thing)

[Onyx]

Peter, congrats on your purchase. I hope you enjoy your foray into the other side... I'll be here waiting to welcome you back to the dark side once the illusion of greener pastures has been debunked.

I must say, tis quite a surprise to read of your switch, given your not unsubstantial investment in Nikkor glass. Unlesss.... nup, it's not yet the first of April.

[johndec]

To start with, a top special Canon deals with lenses are only offered to a limited number of people on this board (The Top Gun )as trial and this deal is directed from Canon Australia.

This is sounding more and more fishy. What the hell's going on here? Surely Canon does not think this board is important enough to offer 'buyout' deals. Don't like the sound of this.

Leon. I must admit that I found that statement interesting. I guess the details will be released in the fullness of time.

[Grev]

The biggest thing that stands out when you pick up a Canon dslr is that the way you access and control its menu system is waaaay different to the Nikon one. IT feels really awkward. I'm guessing a Canon user picking up a Nikon dslr thinks the same about the Nikon menu system and its navigation. The other noticeable immediate difference is that the Canon turns off when you open the CF card door. At first I though this was a good thing, but you lose any data in the camera buffer when you do it (which is a bad thing)

I know that there is no rear rotating wheel on the back of the top right... Waiting to hear more.

And the supposedly "deals" with the association of April 1st is giving uncomfortable vibes.

[xerubus]

I'm quite confused by this offer. Isn't a 5D worth around $4500 AU retail? And a second hand d70 would be worth around $800? Perhaps I'm missing something, but it doesn't add up for me?

cheers

[birddog114]

Mark,
What my understanding is not "old for new" policy.
It's a deal works out as a trade-ins with heavy discount on the 5D and lenses.

[gstark]

I know that there is no rear rotating wheel on the back of the top right... "

There is, actually, but it's about where the multi-select control is on the D70, immediately to the right of the LCD.

I certainly found that difficult to understand, if not actually use, on the 1DS MkII

[Alpha_7]

I'm quite confused by this offer. Isn't a 5D worth around $4500 AU retail? And a second hand d70 would be worth around $800? Perhaps I'm missing something, but it doesn't add up for me?

cheers

Of course it doesn't add up, if it is true then Canon are making an initial loss, but are then counting on future sales of new Canon bodies, new Canon lens, flashes and accesories, and then the ripple affect....

What's the ripple affect ? Get a few prommient members to switch and start posting gorgeous photos with Canon hardware, the lust beings to build (you can't already see it now to a small extent, with no REAL proof that the deal even exists). Given a year or so a primarily Nikon users base could be 50-60% Canon. If it gives them future sales, and more market share, plus they off load stock that may not be selling as quickly as they like, its a Winning situation for me.

[birddog114]

Craig,
Canon do not loose money on this special deal, don't you think how smart are their marketing guys? they earned more than 6 figures/ annualy.

You're on right track, with the new customer base, they will double their profits and listen: Canon may not get involve with this directly but indirect from their channel resellers/ stores.

[Alpha_7]

Craig,
Canon do not loose money on this special deal, don't you think how smart are their marketing guys? they earned more than 6 figures/ annualy.

You're on right track, with the new customer base, they will double their profits and listen: Canon may not get involve with this directly but indirect from their channel resellers/ stores.

Well very few of us know the details of the 'special' deal, so we don't know if they are taking a loss, or just selling at cost etc I don't know so I won't try to comment. I was just trying to show that there are marketing advantages at selling things at a loss, or at cost price, to gain the intial customer base.

Another good example would be the console industry, often the hardware you buy is priced less then the components to make it, but they make it all back by charging you $80-$120 bucks on the games, it's all about getting the customer on board, and then taking them for all there cash later.

[Hlop]

Reading this tread, I'm just trying to understand what's full frame being discussed here? This tiny 24x36 mm frame? Oh, is this a full frame? I thought full frame would be something from 4x5 inches on large format cameras Everything else is just marketing voodoo dance

Peter, anyway, congratulations with your new toy I'm sure it will serve you well

[Nnnnsic]

Reading this tread, I'm just trying to understand what's full frame being discussed here? This tiny 24x36 mm frame? Oh, is this a full frame? I thought full frame would be something from 4x5 inches on large format cameras Everything else is just marketing voodoo dance

Peter, anyway, congratulations with your new toy I'm sure it will serve you well

Geeze Mikhail, and here I thought 8 x 10 was a full frame.