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Your Opinions????

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:09 pm
by Raskill
Just curious as to what you guys and gals think is more important for sports:

A D70 body with good selection of lenses (70-200 F/2.8, 300 F/2.8)

OR

A D2x body with average lens (70-200 F/2.8, 120-300mm f/2.8 and 1.4 TC).

Any opinions appreciated. :)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:24 pm
by kipper
I'd go for the latter. A 70-200 F2.8 on it's own and with a TC should suffice imho as you usually get get fairly close to the action. Plus if you're only going in with non-photographers pass then some places will limit the focal length of what you can use. I know at the F1GP I was told to remove my teleconvertor on my 70-200VR. Which stopped me on the practice day but it soon returned for the other days :)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:27 pm
by Oneputt
Kipper I am intigued. Why would they stop you from using your tele???

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:39 pm
by kipper
AusF1GP terms and conditions say no focal length over 300MM iirc.

70-200VR + 1.7TC = 340MM.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:41 pm
by Oneputt
OK I can understand the regulations, but why?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:58 pm
by gstark
Can you say "Greed" ?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:41 pm
by MCWB
I know, it's just bullshit. You could take absolutely anything you liked into Spa-Francorchamps; there were heaps of enthusiasts walking around with monopods and big-arse primes. Kinda spewing I didin't hire a 400/2.8 or something for the weekend. :(

Edit: Just saw Kipper's post, IIRC it's only 200 mm.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:44 pm
by Onyx
Who's to know what a teleconverter does?
"It's my contact lens holder."

Anyway, thank goodness for Nikon's DX sensors. ;)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:56 pm
by MHD
IMHO the 200/2.0VR (which I which I assume you meant is a novelty..

at 200/2.0 the DOF is rediculously shallow! you are FAR better off with the 70-200VR

So yes... I would FAR prefer the d2x + 70-200

in fact if I had the nikkor 70-200/2.8 VR + d70 VRS the sigma 70-200 + d2X I would head straight for the Sigma + d2X


The CAM2000 is WHAT YOU WANT FOR SPORTS!!! (and that comes on the D2X)

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:01 pm
by glamy
What do you call average lens? To me the 70-200 or the (Sigma?) 120-300 are not average. Having used the D70 and the D2X in difficult circumstances I would not hesitate to go with the D2X. The autofocus is so much better and the viewfinder is also a world apart and the frame rate...etc
Cheers,
Gerard

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:13 pm
by sirhc55
MHD wrote:

The CAM2000 is WHAT YOU WANT FOR SPORTS!!! (and that comes on the D2X)


Or D2H and D2Hs :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:04 pm
by marcotrov
Raskill I'm with Glamy. There is nothing average about the 70-200 and the sigma 120-300. So I'd go for the D2X. To reiterate, the Cam 2000 is what you need. Wish I had the money to have your dilemma. Good luck with an easy decision IMHO.
marco

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:34 pm
by kipper
Onyx oh but the security are trained to know what teleconvertors are.
The security guy that asked me how long the focal length was on my lens and I told him and pointed to the name plate. He then goes "and how much is it with that" and pointed to the teleconvertor. It was either badluck on my behalf that I was stopped by a lad with half a clue or they're training them to know parts of a camera.

Now that I come to think of it I think the guy actually wasn't posted at our stand but was doing the rounds. They might just have the odd person that has training and they get radioed in to inspect. Who knows. Anyhow that's going a bit OT but just thought you should be wary of what you can and can't take in to some Australian Events.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:46 pm
by birddog114
Raskill,

A D2x body with average lens (70-200 F/2.8, 120-300mm f/2.8 and 1.4 TC).


These are the great combo in shooting sports, perhaps not the top gears as many other pro carry with them, but these will serve you well with your passion.

For other:

Don't ever think people don't know what you have and shoot with, those security guys may do lot of duties or attended at many sport events and they have seen same as talked to the official photographers at their leisure, they're are not experts in identifying your gear but they can understand and telling you straight, that you're telling lies. :wink:

I saw few spectators was asked to leave or stop shooting with their lenses, which did not stay within the guidelines/ rules of the organizers at some events both in sports and concerts.