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Shows how much I've used my Sigma 70-300MM for macro. Appears that I need a 58MM Achromatic Diopter Filter. The question is, are these easily available from places like Teds / Vanbar?

What is a good brand? Seeing as it's just a filter do Hoya make them?

Canon 250D or 500D, Nikon 1T,2T,3T,4T,5T,6T etc.

I'm sure filter makers like Hoya have their own range too, +1 or +2 diopters. They should be readily available from good pro photo shops, 'should' being the operative word.

Onyx wrote:Canon 250D or 500D, Nikon 1T,2T,3T,4T,5T,6T etc.

I'm sure filter makers like Hoya have their own range too, +1 or +2 diopters. They should be readily available from good pro photo shops, 'should' being the operative word.

Onyx,
Please let him know how much did you pay for my Canon 500D he'll

Birddog, seeing as I have a Sigma 70-300MM 1:4-5.6D APO Super Macro, what would you recommend that I get?

kipper wrote:Birddog, seeing as I have a Sigma 70-300MM 1:4-5.6D APO Super Macro, what would you recommend that I get?

depend how much do you want to spend? Canon 500D for 58mm is around US$100- 120.00

250D for 30MM to 135MM, 500D for 70 to 300MM

For the price, is the Canon worth it or are some of the cheaper Hoya ones just as effective?

Or is that the issue, if you use something other than the 500D do you need multiple filters for different focal lengths?

kipper wrote:250D for 30MM to 135MM, 500D for 70 to 300MM

What are you talking about? I don't understand?

I was answering my own question about recommending what filter for the lense that I have

I read somewhere that a Canon 250D can be used for focal lengths 30-135MM and the 500D for 70-300MM.

I don't know, I have the Canon 500/ 77mm and I use that on my 70-200 or the new 300/2.8VR when it comes.

It's not worth to invest some monies in the cheapo lens, better saving for the good glasses or by the Tamron Di 90mm Macro.

Ok, so the Canon 500D is the way to go then

Kipper, the diopter filter suits the size of your lens in mm. That is not the focal length, but the barrel diameter. It is usually marked near the thread where the filter screws on

Birddog114 wrote:I don't know, I have the Canon 500/ 77mm and I use that on my 70-200 or the new 300/2.8VR when it comes.

It's not worth to invest some monies in the cheapo lens, better saving for the good glasses or by the Tamron Di 90mm Macro.

Birdie

I have been looking at that Tamron 90 macro. Mmmmm. Macro. 1:1

I would love a serious bit of macro gear, the macro on the Tam 70-300 is OK, but I suspect a dedicated macro prime will be the way to go (coupled with the imminent SB 800!!!)

Birdie

I have been looking at that Tamron 90 macro. Mmmmm. Macro. 1:1

I would love a serious bit of macro gear, the macro on the Tam 70-300 is OK, but I suspect a dedicated macro prime will be the way to go (coupled with the imminent SB 800!!!)

Greg,
I have both Tamron 90Di Macro and 180 Di macro , both works excellent and love it that why I got the flash bracket from RRS.
I can loan you next week and you play with it once you're back home.

Glen wrote:Kipper, the diopter filter suits the size of your lens in mm. That is not the focal length, but the barrel diameter. It is usually marked near the thread where the filter screws on

Actually Glen, the various strength of dioptic filters have a recommended focal length range. Kipper could be right regarding the 250D (single element filter) for 30-135mm and 500D (dual element filter) for 70-300mm. I don't know the exact numbers, but they sound about right...

Using Birddog's 500D (which costs as much as the Sigma 70-300 APO lens itself!) on a 70-200VR, there are still some compromises compared with using a true macro lens. Manual focus is recommended, as the lens' AF gets confused, and the shallow depth of field requires a small aperture to be used, and hence a tripod is necessary for the corresponding long shutter speeds.

Thanks Onyx, I didn't know that. The guy I bought my 6T said it works on all nikkors and it has so far but really I only use it on the 70-210 for the magnification. Thank you

Onyx,
You're rightn need a sturdy tripod and a good head will do the job. But the filter is costly and I don't recommend it to member with the cheapo glass. BTW, the 28/1.4 is here in my hand, have to work tonight, you can play with it on saturday same as the Right angle viewfinder.

Birddog114 wrote:Greg,
I have both Tamron 90Di Macro and 180 Di macro , both works excellent and love it that why I got the flash bracket from RRS.
I can loan you next week and you play with it once you're back home.

Birdie, that is a very generous offer, but I might not be back in Sydney to get it back to you until January some time - we'll talk next week.

Greg,
No problem, Jan or Feb is fine with me, I have the Canon 500 and 180Di macro so the 90Di on TDY is not a problem, once you have the SB-800 you can evaluate both.

Birddog114 wrote:Onyx,
You're rightn need a sturdy tripod and a good head will do the job. But the filter is costly and I don't recommend it to member with the cheapo glass. BTW, the 28/1.4 is here in my hand, have to work tonight, you can play with it on saturday same as the Right angle viewfinder.

Woah, thanks Birddog, that's very kind of you. I get to play with your expensive new gear while you head out and work your behind off so you can afford yet more expensive gear!

Kipper
If you keep answering your own questions then whats left for us to do?

MattK,
The Canon Right Angle viewfinder is here same as the Nikon DR-6, you can play with them on Saturday if you have time on my Tamron 90Di and 180Di macro

kipper,

I have the Nikon 6T which has a 62mm thread and works well with my 70-300ED nikon lens. I would expect the other nikon diopters would work equally as well. There are a couple of things to be aware when looking at macro stuff (apologies if I state the obvious here) ... firstly a dedicated lens is a better solution though at a higher pricepoint that I have not been prepared to pay for yet.... secondly the hoya and other filters are not dioptic and therefore will provide an inferior solution to the canon and nikon diopters.

If you're wanting to do lotsa good macro work go with one of the dedicated lens otherwise get a canon or nikon diopter and forget the rest.

Oh by-the-way... the canon diopters, especially the 500D 77mm are really hard to get !!!

Michael.

Birdie
Thanks mate!
I'll drop around in the morning. Might get to meet Greg B? I would enjoy that. He gives me a hard time.

Thanks Mj. The cost of a dedicated macro lense is probably out of reach at the moment after spending all that money on the D70. However a Canon 500D could be affordable for the Sigma 70-300MM APO Super Macro that I have. This will surfice for the time being as a stepping stone into macro photography. I'd really like to spend my cash on a SB-800 next as one of these seems an essential in your kit.

kipper, cost of 500D is not unsubstantial. I'm staring at a receipt here for Birddog's 77mm version, $US135 +tax.

Kipper
Lens reversal is the way to go if you are on a budget. Professional results for little outlay. Check out the site on this forum that gives directions to do it yourself...or buy a reversal ring for about $45.

Has anybody seen MJ? He seems to have disappeared?

Matt,

Matt. K wrote:Has anybody seen MJ? He seems to have disappeared?

His avatar was blown over in a wind gust, trapping him underneath it.



IOW, no.

MJ is appropriately dressed for urban warfare. As for me...I spend most of my time sneaking around in the botanical gardens.

Matt. K wrote:MJ is appropriately dressed for urban warfare. As for me...I spend most of my time sneaking around in the botanical gardens.

And avoiding little dogs, no doubt.

And now's as good a time as any to thank Matt for my evolving avatar !!!
Always good to continue exploring the potential of brickwall photography !!!

Matt

Your mention of the reversal ring at $45. Is that a Nikon ring? I guess you need a different one for different lenses?