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Photoshop Question

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:50 pm
by MATT
Hi,

When I view pics through normal windows veiwing my pics appear normal. But when I open them in Photoshop CS2 they appear washed out.

Now there is every chance I did something to photoshop cause I realy have no idea.

ANyone have any idea??

This driving me nuts

MATT

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:17 pm
by big pix
Check your photoshop preferences

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:21 pm
by MATT
I found a colour chooser part that had options of either Windoze or Adobe, niether made any difference?


Any more ideas?

Thansk

MATT

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:22 pm
by Oneputt
Matt I assume that you are shooting RAW, but what exactly do you mean by normal viewing?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:24 pm
by MATT
No just JPG, when Isay normal. If I just double click the file and opens in windows image viewer or if you browse a folder as filmstrip.

These same files are fine on my laptop photoshop and windows match.


MATT

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:29 pm
by big pix
sounds like one of your settings is wrong.........check permissions on the image.........

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:31 pm
by big pix
try and check your laptop settings against your desktop....... also what settings did you use and what were the permissions when you moved the files........

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:35 pm
by Oneputt
It sounds like totally different monitor settings.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:38 pm
by MATT
Thanks for your help..


When all else fails I will uninstall and re inststall.

My laptop is Photoshop Cs not CS2 but the images were downloaded to my main PC and copied to dvd.

I was working on these at work (in my lunch 1/2) :lol: .The main PC I havnt used photoshop for awhile. BU the laptop is to slow and to small a screen.


I let you know what happens after a reinstall.

I must have ticked some box somewhere.

:evil: :evil:


Thanks again

MATT

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:39 pm
by big pix
could be anything so start with the image........then screen......then photoshop........the first 2 only take a second or two........

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:00 pm
by DaveB
A couple of background questions:
  • What profile is set in the Windows Display Properties (or in the new MS Color Control Panel if you've installed that) for the display on each?
  • What profile is Photoshop associating with the files? Presumably sRGB or AdobeRGB if they're coming from a camera.
The thumbnails provided by Windows Explorer are "straight", with no profile compensation applied. Internet Explorer will be doing the same thing. But Photoshop will be associating a profile with the image (WHICH profile can be affected by the Color Settings and by the "Ignore EXIF profile tag" setting in the File Handling preferences) and then converting the displayed image to the profile of the monitor (it doesn't convert the image "in-memory", just dynamically as it's displayed).

One example scenario would be if the "monitor profile" was (or was close to) sRGB, and if Photoshop was deciding the images were also in sRGB. It would then display the colours virtually unmodified, just as Windows will. Maybe that's how your laptop is.
But if the image profile is different from the monitor profile (which it almost always is if you've set things up properly) it will transform the colours slightly so you see what the colours are really supposed to look like. From your description it is *possible* that your laptop is wrong but your desktop is correct...

Have you calibrated/profiled the display on both using a hardware colorimeter? If so you should be getting Photoshop displaying the same ("correct") colours on both machines, even if Windows doesn't display the same colours in its thumbnails.
Welcome to the world of half-implemented colour management!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:53 pm
by MATT
DaveB, Yes it is totally possible that the laptop is wrong.

I have done no screen profiling and are using Hyundia Q17 LCD.


I have now uninstalled CS2 and installed CS cause I can get my CS2 disc to work :? .

But in CS it is displayed as I would have expected.

I dont do a great deal of printing and dont send anything off to commercial places, so profiling is not high on my list of this to do.

I tried the old picture of a coke can and held it up to the monitor, it was pretty closeand when printed on my canon i850 on canon paper its pretty good too.

It seems to be some setting in Photoshop, and from your description of the monitor profile being used, this would be the most likely problem.

I will ahve to get my head around this at some stage and maybe even invest in a Spyder or similar. Then I could get the laptop and Desktop to look the same. I also have a 21 in Phillips here but the colour of that are way off.

Well thanks all for your help. I have a woman coming this afternoon to go throuhg some photos of Prep Kids to make a slideshow to hand out to all the parents, I then went into apanic when I couldnt get photoshop to do what I want.

I am much calmer now.

Cheers

MATT