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More info on colour space-food for thought

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:41 pm
by Matt. K

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:47 am
by Onyx
Yep, the more I read, the more I wish I hadn't. ;)

I find it strange they're recommending to shoot with sRGB in camera even if one wishes to utilise adobeRGB for photoshop editing; and the output to be electronic.

Personally, I never really grasped the "wider gamut" arguement of adobe colourspace users. Since outputting to printers is inevitably CMYK - a 4 colour mix; and to view on a monitor it's a mix of 3 colours. Even the human eye only has 3 colour light detectors. Ultimately, this wider colour gamut is gone to waste as it's largely undetectable.

Like high end audio equipment, eg. my dad's fancy CD player claiming 'legato link' technology wtih frequency output up to 90kHz. Yet the limit of human hearing is theoretically 20kHz - and in practice, esp with age, it's often much less. The upper frequency range seems to be all wasted unless torturing one's dog with Celine Dion's voice...

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:44 am
by gstark
Onyx wrote:Like high end audio equipment, eg. my dad's fancy CD player claiming 'legato link' technology wtih frequency output up to 90kHz. Yet the limit of human hearing is theoretically 20kHz - and in practice, esp with age, it's often much less. The upper frequency range seems to be all wasted unless torturing one's dog with Celine Dion's voice...


It's not that one is likely to hear those high end sounds on their own; it's what they contribute to the whole mix that's of value there. There will be harmonics of many hues; most certainly there is added value.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:05 am
by glc
When I saw the title for this thread I thought it was about coloured space-food sticks :wink:

My simple understanding of the benefit of working in a wider gamut was like the 8-bit vs 16-bit difference. i.e. its more for the extra room when manipulating images, so you don't end up "clipping" colours by going out of gamut during intermediate stages.

Of course I could be totally off base.

FWIW, I shoot and work in Adobe RGB, then convert to sRGB for output. All I know is that I figured out what I need to do to get my working image, output for web and the stuff I get printed at the lab looking pretty much the same, and that's the most important thing to me :)

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:54 pm
by Matt. K
Gary
Ahh! The harmonics of a beautiful chord...the harmonics of a beautiful picture!
Life is all about harmonics.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:39 pm
by gstark
Matt. K wrote:Gary
Ahh! The harmonics of a beautiful chord...the harmonics of a beautiful picture!
Life is all about harmonics.


Bee-ootiful!

:)

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:37 pm
by dooda
This is all talking about red eye reduction right? If anyone needs to know more about red eye reduction, email me, glad to help!

This is all so far beyond me, I just barely figured out how to post pictures on pix bot (thanks Kristine) much less the whole colour gamut gamut.

Onyx, easy on Celine Deion, she's one of our own (we haven't found any takers).

I do find the topic of our human sensory capability interesting. I've sat down and endured listening to someone happily strum away on a guitar completely out of tune, never to know the difference(each time i mentally restrain myself from ripping the guitar away and either tuning it or destroying it). On the flip side, I've sat there tuning a guitar in front of people about to play a song, and they had no idea why I kept hitting the same note--most of them couldn't tell it was flat. However, you put a 15k and a 1.5k sound system in front of me and I'm dammed if I can tell the difference. I've never considered that this could be the case with colours, though it sorta makes sense. What about taste then, and touch for that matter?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:16 pm
by Onyx
dooda - the one thing i do remember from sensory perception classes, our sense of touch: the skin receptors responsible for detecting cold and hot, when activated together, reports pain. ie. if you had two copper pipes entwined, 1 with hot water flowing thru and 1 with cold - and were to grip the two together, you will report feeling tremendous pain.

Not that this has anything to do with the prevailing thread subject - just thought I'd share the trivial info retained from my otherwise useless tertiary education.