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Epson P2000 issue

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:19 am
by wendellt
Hi lovely people

I just bought an expensive Epson P2000
I like it because it's much lighter thn my apple ibook and stores twice as much

just got 1 issue

it can zoom in and preview jpeg files but not Nikon D2X raw files
I tried taking raw pics without raw compression and then tried to view them on the P2000 but same thing i just get a 'beep' when i hit the zoom button.The P200 views the raw file scaled down to fit the size of the LCD fine but it cannot zoom into them.
I take pics now with RAW + jpeg fine on the d2x so i can at least zoom into the jpeg preview saved with the raw file, to counter this issue

updated the firmware to Firmware Update ver 2.51

no change

anyone else have similar experiences?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:21 am
by Geoff
Not sure there Wendell.
I know an easy solution.
I will give you both my D70's...
and you give me your D2X!
There's no problem with the P2000 and the D70 raw files :)

I would suggest also trying dpreview for this question too, as I'm sure the P2000 is a bit more popular in the USA.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:23 am
by wendellt
Geoff wrote:Not sure there Wendell.
I know an easy solution.
I will give you both my D70's...
and you give me your D2X!
There's no problem with the P2000 and the D70 raw files :)


sweet, o.k your off my lovely people list :wink:

there is also another issue it's quite slow at viewing the files compared to the D2X.
but hey I may be the most impatient person on the planet

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:33 am
by birddog114
wendellt wrote:
Geoff wrote:Not sure there Wendell.
I know an easy solution.
I will give you both my D70's...
and you give me your D2X!
There's no problem with the P2000 and the D70 raw files :)


sweet, o.k your off my lovely people list :wink:

there is also another issue it's quite slow at viewing the files compared to the D2X.
but hey I may be the most impatient person on the planet


Wendellt,
Simple issue to resolve! remove the screws behind the unit and tap in a "fast chip" to boost up the speed 8) or repalce its Hdd with the new 7200rpm :shock: :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:42 am
by wendellt
Birddog114 wrote:
wendellt wrote:
Geoff wrote:Not sure there Wendell.
I know an easy solution.
I will give you both my D70's...
and you give me your D2X!
There's no problem with the P2000 and the D70 raw files :)


sweet, o.k your off my lovely people list :wink:

there is also another issue it's quite slow at viewing the files compared to the D2X.
but hey I may be the most impatient person on the planet


Wendellt,
Simple issue to resolve! remove the screws behind the unit and tap in a "fast chip" to boost up the speed 8) or repalce its Hdd with the new 7200rpm :shock: :lol:


ha. Now who has a screwdriver i can borrow, i seemed to have broken all of mine.

seriously Mr Birddog i was playing with your P200 at the meet you shoot in thesame raw format i do and I believe I could not zoom into them when i tried pressing the zoom button i did not give it much thought till now, it really is an annoying issue.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:53 am
by birddog114
wendellt wrote:
ha. Now who has a screwdriver i can borrow, i seemed to have broken all of mine.


Step out your office and see the HB maintenance crews and grab a spanner from them :lol:

seriously Mr Birddog i was playing with your P200 at the meet you shoot in thesame raw format i do and I believe I could not zoom into them when i tried pressing the zoom button i did not give it much thought till now, it really is an annoying issue.


Seriously, That speed is OK with me and the P2000 meets my requirements, so I don't tap in a "speed chip" :lol: or replace it with the 7200rpm Hdd :lol:

I don't need to zoom to view RAW files, what for? you almost do it after each shot on the camera and reshoot if you're not happy with it.

To zoom on the Epson 2000, what will you try to achieve? if the photo is bad or OOF, you can't reshoot it anyway. Do it on the Camera and viewing it on the P2000. Or shooting RAW + Jpeg. That's.

Never seen you're happy with anything :twisted:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:54 am
by avkomp
I have a p-2000 and it wont zoom on raw files.
I believe it wont zoom on any nikon raws.
think I read somewhere that this is because it reads embedded jpg BTW I noticed that they posted a firmware update on epsons website recently v2.51 not sure what extras/bug fixes it achieves I couldnt find any info as to what it did but I installed it anyhow and can confirm that it still wont zoom raw after the update.

Steve

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:57 am
by birddog114
Again my question for all:

What & why do you want to view photos with the zooming on the PSD?

I thought you can do it on the camera LCD and it's enough with my case.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:03 pm
by avkomp
Birdy: The zooming function would have help us blind, old blokes see what is going on.

another reason though which is also true is "because you can"
perhaps showing someone a closeup of a raw file at a time after the shots have been downloaded off the camera.

I found that with my eyes the way they are, I cant see the screen on the d70 correctly, although now I mostly dont wear my contact lenses, I just remove my glasses and have no probs.

Anyone know what the 2.51 firmware addresses??
Steve

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:08 pm
by birddog114
Google P2000!

Well, my eyes aren't that bad and I don't require to show anyone the RAW files which taken by me.

And finally, it meets my requirements.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:12 pm
by avkomp
as it turns out, I only use my p2000 as a backup device for my pics
but also have some finished stuff on it that I show people at times.

I also use it to demo to people when I try to sell em one.

havent actually used it in the field yet though, I havent managed to fill all my CF cards at one time yet. If I do I will use the p2000 to help

Steve

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:28 pm
by Steffen
Wendell,
I'm pretty sure the full screen view you can see is the TIFF thumbnail embedded in the RAW file. Since Nikon started encrypting the white balance data in RAW files with the D2X, maybe Epson hasn't caught up with that yet? Do RAW's from other Nikon bodies work? Canon bodies?

Cheers
Steffen.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:31 pm
by wendellt
I want to use it as a electronic portfolio, a job previosly reserved for my ibook, but now that i am more out and about it's hard to bring a laptop with you as well as a big camera,so the Epson P2000 would be a perfect electronic portfolio device

I figured if you save your hi res images using the save as jpg option instead of save for the web in photoshop and select format options 'baseline standard' or 'baseline optimised' the jpeg produced is compatible ont he epson p2000, doesn't matter what dpi

it can't read png svae for the web jpegs or tiffs
and any file size under 2000 pixels wide

i got soem of my portfolio shots on the device everythign is sweet now i can even zoom into them

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:01 pm
by gstark
Wendell,

What batteries are you using?

Have you tried the 40x ones?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:07 pm
by birddog114
Upgrade to the 80X, it's available now on Epson Webstores.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:49 pm
by wendellt
gstark wrote:Wendell,

What batteries are you using?

Have you tried the 40x ones?


gary this a joke?

I use the lithium ion battery that came with it

it's still slower than previewing file on the d2x

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:59 pm
by birddog114
Wendellt,
The viewing photos straight from the camera comparision with the PSD is totally difference, even you view the file from a PC via a card reader is not faster than viewing from the camera.
The hardware built in the PSD is also difference with your D2x, and all the PSD are the same. Pls. don't ask too much.

Yes, upgrade the battery to 40x as Gary mentioned is maybe giving you more faster and even heap faster with 80x.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:46 pm
by glamy
That was my point when we were discussing P2000 vs Coolwalker: when you are looking at it on those, it is too late to change. I agree with you Birddog.
The only use I have of the screen is to confirm I have backed up my pictures without having to remember the numbers. I'd rather have something designed to work with my line of equipment, so I have a Coolwalker. Am I the only one?
Cheers,
Gerard

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:45 pm
by DaveB
Lessee.... from the User Guide for the P-4000 (and 2000 I guess):
RAW files do not support direct printing, rotation, zooming, or slide shows with the P-4000.

Simple: no can do!

It's not designed to be an editing/review workstation, but it will show you what images are on the drive.
At least you can see the images, even if it is only a JPEG preview that's been embedded in the RAW file by the camera!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:48 pm
by birddog114
DaveB wrote:Lessee.... from the User Guide for the P-4000 (and 2000 I guess):
RAW files do not support direct printing, rotation, zooming, or slide shows with the P-4000.

Simple: no can do!

It's not designed to be an editing/review workstation, but it will show you what images are on the drive.
At least you can see the images, even if it is only a JPEG preview that's been embedded in the RAW file by the camera!


That's all what we want, and do thing properly at home or office when we back to base.