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Sunday Arvo Photos - Decision assistance required!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:10 pm
by darb
went for a sunday arvo drive and took some snaps.

Took 4 tree photos that I liked in particular, I want to decide on TWO to keep ... but cant, let me know your fave of these four ;

(Circ Polariser + Cokin Graduated ND Tobacco.)

http://darb.net/assorted-personal/DSC_3820?full=1
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http://darb.net/assorted-personal/DSC_3825?full=1
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http://darb.net/assorted-personal/DSC_3827?full=1
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http://darb.net/assorted-personal/DSC_3829?full=1
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Two others from today;

http://darb.net/assorted-personal/DSC_3831?full=1
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http://darb.net/assorted-personal/DSC_3811?full=1
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:12 pm
by phillipb
Question: Why can't you keep the lot?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:13 pm
by MHD
I like the third one... It obeys two general guidelines: Rule of thirds and stong diagonals :)

And I like the tones in this one better than the others, it seems more saturated and less "muddy" than the others...

Nice shot mate... Nice and characteristic... seems to tell a story, "old man tree"

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:13 pm
by darb
self restraint! haha ... i like to only keep my best / faves ... just wanted some opinion on those 4 final candidates.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:26 pm
by Onyx
Third one could go. The grass in the foreground seems blown.

Those grad ND tobacco make for a funky effect!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:57 pm
by darb
yeh and the polariser helped (tahts quite a few Fstops ripped out of the sky!)

very exxagerated, but then i always exxagerate my photos :)

first play with my Cokin gear so ill probably tone it back a bit next time. or not !

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:16 pm
by kipper
How much did the initial cokin setup cost you plus say a reasonable peice of filter glass?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:18 pm
by darb
P series holder, a 67mm adapter ring, a Grad ND gray filter, and a tabacco ND grad filter cost me around $130 all up i think it was

the filters are about $35 each

try http://www.vanbar.com.au

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:39 pm
by Dargan
I actually like the effect of the third one and would keep it and the fourth. The others don't hold my interest but I think in PP you could do some more with both 3 and 4.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:34 am
by ajo43
speaking of great shots. Look at this guys work - taken with the kit lens no less (and he's and aussie).

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11243287

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:56 am
by birddog114
Ajo43,
That's a great shot and very nice pics from that guy.
To make it simple just a CPL filter will do 99% of the job people want to do! Cokin Filter System or Range of other special effect filters won't do justice all, we can manage them in PS and PP.
Basic rules are applied!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:19 am
by pl55
Awsome Shots from Marli.
May be now I have to get the CPL filter too. BTW, I have download the PS action for that frame http://members.westnet.com.au/vanv/matt-frame.zip but I cannot get the same result as him. Can anyone help !!! I really like those frames. or post the new action for it.

Cheers

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:00 am
by kipper
True birdy. The only thing I was looking for in the cokin range was the Graduated ND filter. I've got CPL and a +2 ND, was going to look at an IR filter and I think that's all I need as most other effects can be done in PS. Even Graduated NDs aren't really required anymore as you can take two shots different exposures and merge in PS.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:45 am
by darb
true, PS can do some of the thigns that cokin filters can do ... but usually at a bit of a cost.

the pics i made yesterday were a CPL backed onto a cokin tabacco grad ND ... i love it, tis fun :)

and yeh that pic you posted frmo dpreview ... i have posted in that thread many days ago :) .. clearly though my pics in this thread werent intended to be "natural" :)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:56 pm
by birddog114
darb wrote:true, PS can do some of the thigns that cokin filters can do ... but usually at a bit of a cost.

the pics i made yesterday were a CPL backed onto a cokin tabacco grad ND ... i love it, tis fun :)

and yeh that pic you posted frmo dpreview ... i have posted in that thread many days ago :) .. clearly though my pics in this thread werent intended to be "natural" :)


Yes, of course, everything is cost today, but once you're invested in PS or PSCS then you can do more with everything you want, even if you invested in filter systems, you still have to need to PP anyway, but with filters only, it's restricted.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:05 pm
by darb
i didnt mean fiscal cost i meant image quality cost

ive got CS with a huge array of fred miranda tools, and a FULL range of cokin emulating tools (nikon colour effects pro actions) for applying a cokin grad ND to your images, in CS ... however it wont help you if the problem is a blown sky to begin with etc .. so i use CS AND cokin filters depending what i want to do etc ... i try to minimise my CS work ... so with the photos i made this example i only had to deal with levels, noise, sharpening in CS ... didnt add my filter effects in CS, they came from the CPL and cokin stuff.

At the end of the day i just have fun with the real thing and love fiddling with stuff in the field :)


Im kinda unsure what we're discussing here.