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Opinions on using 3rd party non-OEM batteries

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:36 pm
by katweazl
Hey all,

Just after some opinions on this issue. Have people used non-OEM batteries and if so are they safe and reliable and not going to catch fire and melt my camera? :)

Thanks

Joel

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:44 pm
by sirhc55
I use 3rd party (as well as Nikon) on both the D70 and the D2Hs with no problems (touch wood) :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:00 pm
by Matt. K
I have been using them for over 2 years. No probs.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:37 pm
by thaddeus
Neither the originals or the clones have exploded on me.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:01 pm
by katweazl
Great thanks.....you can get them from around $15 on ebay......but I just thought I would check before I went and got one.

Joel

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:03 pm
by johndec
I've got a 3rd party as well as OEM and had no problems with either.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:59 pm
by Marvin
Had mine for 18 months with no worries.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:17 pm
by christiand
Same here,

I have a Powermart DNK003 7.4V 1300mAh 3rd party
which I bought 18months ago: not a problem whatsoever.

Cheers and happy new year,
CD

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:19 pm
by Mal
12 months, no problems, lasts longer.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:39 pm
by phillipb
I just bought one off Ebay for $9.90 + $12.00 express post even though I've never needed a spare. So far no problems, but then again I haven't had to use it yet. :)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:21 pm
by DionM
I have had mixed results.

Out of the 6 non-OEM batteries I have acquired (yes, six) ... only 2 work in my 20D.

Story goes like this ...

1. Buy a single non-OEM battery on eBay. It works first charge. Go to buy another, spy a great deal for two, voila, have a total of 3 batteries.

2. All 3 batteries only give 1 or 2 runs in the 20D then the 20D stops 'seeing' them. Will not power up.

3. Long time passes. Buy two batteries from http://www.qualitycamera.com.au . One stops working, other powers on. Drop email to website owner, he sends me a replacement. It works.

So I have 6 batteries, only 2 working.

I should add that through out this, I have not spent anywhere near what Canon wants for 1 battery ... so I'm still ahead ... just.

Thankfully the 'dead' batteries do work in my Powershot G2 ... so my PnS has 4 spare batteries :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:09 pm
by Onyx
Dion, you coulda chucked the non-working ones in a fire on NYE for some spectacular fireworks. ;)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:36 pm
by Geoff
I too have a combination of genuine nikon batteries and the other ones...both are fine :)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:07 pm
by MattC
I have stuck to OEM batteries. Now, I am sure that the "fakes" are, in some cases, as good the real deal - There is probably a good chance that they came out of the same factory as the originals, but....


Li-Ion batteries can be a bomb if they are not treated right and safegaurds are not implemented properly.
The recent recall of Nikon batteries is a testament to the fact that Li-Ion batteries can have problems - even the branded ones. It is reassuring to know that Nikon has been upfront on this one and has put the safety of it's customers first (and the possibility of a multi-million dollar compensation payout if someone was injured while Nikon knew of the problem and ignored it).
The questions that may be asked of the "fakes" are: If there is a fault will they be recalled? I doubt it. Some of the non genuine batteries may be afflicted with the same problem that caused the Nikon recall - but that is pure speculation. If the "fake" ruins the camera due to a fault, who is going to foot the repair bill? Nikon won't touch it (in terms of warranty) and I doubt that any of us would have much joy going after some unknown overseas company.

I do admit to there being a degree of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) in all of this, but thought I would lay out the cons of non genuine batteries. It is also the extreme (there is that word filter) :D end. The Nikon battery recall was the result of something like 4 batteries... out of how many millions.

For my own use, I do not need more than one spare. I do not think that I have ever taken more than 600 shots in a day and I easily get that from one battery. I carry the spare, but I do not think that I have ever needed to use it. It is nice however, to have that spare "just in case" or to have a battery in the camera while the other is on the charger.

When I purchased the D70, I spent $2400 (IIRC) on the kit, $800 or so on the SB800, a couple of grand on lenses, more on a bag, CF cards, etc. Saving a few bucks on a battery did not make much sense at the time.

Cheers PS. I still have 4 non genuine batteries for my old CP5700 and they were never a problem.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:46 am
by Steffen
MattC wrote:I have stuck to OEM batteries. Now, I am sure that the "fakes" are, in some cases, as good the real deal - There is probably a good chance that they came out of the same factory as the originals, but....


I'm with you on that one. I'm not usually defending overpriced "original" ware, but those Li-Ions are a touchy subject. Nokia have a tale to tell about them, too.

I wouldn't use non-Nikon batteries for now, not because I think 3rd-party ones are in any way inferior but merely because of the warranty issue.

I'm happy to mix and match 3rd-party accessories with my Nikon gear, but in the case of Li-Ions it's not only the battery itself that's at stake but the whole rig, and maybe your skin, too. Nobody is going to pay a cent if something goes wrong. For me, the extra cost of OEM's is more like an insurance policy.

That said, I haven't bought a Nikon battery yet, I was lucky enough to get two of them with my camera, and they'll last me a long time by the looks of it.

Cheers
Steffen.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:28 am
by birddog114
Echoing from MATTC and other:
Fake or non-genuine Nikon batteries are useable but the outcome if something happens, no one can tell or don't want to guess :shock:
You spent few grands for your gears and hesitated to spend another 40 bucks extra for a genuine battery, it seems to me it's not the right decision, and I don't go that way.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:18 am
by losfp
I've used both before, with no problems.

Having said that, I generally use the genuine batteries as a first choice, with the 3rd party cheapies as a "just in case" backup until I get a chance to charge up the genuine batteries again.