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Hi All, Another silly question.LOL After i get my pics sorted out and done what i want to them i normally out a border on them, anyhow when i take to print out at say 6x4 or ever i think it is 8x12 when i look at them it has cut some of the borders out. Why does it do this or is it i have to resize the picture after i have added border to size? if so what size do i have to resize it so i dont loose any borders/
Thanks in Advance for help.
Cheers
John

ps: never been one to print many pictures out, but yeh now and then and i have this problem.

What printer are you using?

I read through your post a few times and I think there are two instances of the word 'out' which are out of place, one I think is meant to be 'cut' and the other 'put'.. is that right?

If i'm reading you correctly you're adding a border to your pictures but when you print them out the border is getting chopped a little.

If so.. my questions are..

1) What printer are you using?
2) What size print are you trying to make?
3) What size ( in pixels ) is the picture before you send it to the printer?
4) If you print the picture normally ( without a border ) does it chop edges off?
5) What program are you using to print the picture?
6) If you try to print a 6x4 image on a larger sheet of paper, does all the border appear?

PlatinumWeaver, Yes mate that is right and i have a canon printer mp360, but i went to Hardley Normal today as they have a processing unit in there to print your photo's out and i tried to print a, i think it is 8x12 and well i lost some of my borders sometimes this happens on my elcheapo canon printer here at home. Thats why i think it maybe a resize problem maybe.

Yes, I have a Canon printer and it comes with an excellent program which does a good job of cropping and resizing at the printing stage (if that is when you want to do it) to fit onto the size of paper being used, and giving the choice of with or without a border.

(Sorry to use the C word)

Are you using the dedicated Canon printing program?

I set up a 360 for a customer today so i'm moderately familiar with the printer.

I'd say just make sure that when you add your border you're still using the correct ratio.. so an 8x12 is what... 2x3.. so you're pretty much fine with a standard 3008x2000 ( or 2000x3008 )..

Is there any way you could upload an image so I can have a look? It really shouldn't be getting chopped off..

It might be worthwhile talking to your Harvey Norman Image Centre technician.. some of them are the typical retail exploitee and have no idea whatsoever.. but one guy at my local HN is a real photo enthusiast. I was there printing a whole mess of photos ( 682 ) for my sister and spoke with him for a few hours while he organised the purchase of a dSLR for himself ( the opposition, not nikon ) and $3000 worth of lens..

Greg B wrote:Yes, I have a Canon printer and it comes with an excellent program which does a good job of cropping and resizing at the printing stage (if that is when you want to do it) to fit onto the size of paper being used, and giving the choice of with or without a border.

(Sorry to use the C word)

Are you using the dedicated Canon printing program?

Yeah - When I say mp360 I knew that the photoprint program would have been there.

Although It's actually an optional install!
Hey BBJ.. if you haven't installed it.. whack in the installation disk and at the bottom of the autorun menu there's an option for optional programs.. thinkings like webprint, acrobat and an OCR program.. the photoprint option is the one you want...

Regarding the Harvey Norman prints, some of the digital print processing booths (Fuji for one) are reported to slightly crop - according to the website, HN does use the Fuji system so this could be the problem there.

Although the many printing programs do do a good job of cropping and resizing, it's good to do this manually so you are absolutely sure of the quality of your results.

For example, to print a photo with a border to any printer I would:

1. Open the photo in photoshop or similar and resize the image to the necessary size - for this exercise, if you had a shot you wanted to print at 6 x 4 (150mm x 100mm) with a 5mm border all round, you might resize it to 13.54cm X 9cm (to preserve quality, you should constrain the proportions when you resize - ie 3:2 so you'll be left with slightly more border on the long sides) - if you're enlarging the size, remember that it's generally not good to add more pixels than you started with (interpolate) or to size larger than a size that leaves a resolution of 200dpi at the least.
2. Now resize the canvas to the print size you want (in this case 15 x 10). Now you have a shot with a border of the size you want.
3. Print - NOTE: at this stage your application may tell you that your image goes beyond the printable area of your printer and ask if you'd like it to be resized. This is because the application doesn't know that the border is blank. So long as your printer can print (in this case) 5mm from the edge, you can safely say no to this offer and print happily away.

This should leave you with exactly the image you sent to the printer.

Hope this helps.

Thanks Ru and Dean, I just uploaded this pic, is 1 i just added a border to it.

I also do have the canon programs installed for the printer as well and do use them, i just like the look of the border and sometime i will get both ends cut off but you might be able to see what it's like.

Thanks
John
Took this pic today

This picture was a rush job as there was a girl taking them and selling the prints. These kids are a friends kids and i asked if i could get a quick shot of them, well i took 2. Anyhow i have added a border, so if i wanted to print this would have to rezise this as at time in my canon printer software when i check the size in the frame that it will print it at times cuts of the border at either end or if i make it borderless i would have thought cos the borders are on the pic itself they still would have been in the printout.
pic last post

Nice pic and I agree that the border sets it off nicely.

Not sure whether, when you posted the pic you intended ithis to be an exact example of the issue - assuming you did, here goes.

Your picture (complete with border) is sized at 5.92 x 4.29 cm. Assuming you want to print this at roughly 6 x 4 inches (around 15 x 10cm), according to PSE the maximum recommended size for "borderless" printing is around 13.064 cm x 9.478 cm. Although true borderless printing would be 13.784 x 10cm, if you want to print a non-white border, it's best to leave at least a little room as inkjets (probably more fairly, the inkjet owners) rarely feed the paper absolutely and perfectly straight and while you can trim a bit of white off, you can't stick a coloured bit that has been "trimmed" back on.

If you printed this all the way to the edge of the paper, any slight movement in the paper would result in the border being cut off somewhat. If, however, you size it to just below the maximum for one side (probably a bit more than the PSE recommended size but a bit less than 10cm on the short size - say 9.8cm) - and keep the other edge in proportion, you'll get the best result.

I downloaded your pic, printed it resized as I suggest here, and it worked just fine, without cropping the black border (pixma i5000). The only issue is that because the picture size you have won't size proportionally to fill the paper - the extra half a cm of white space on each side of the black border on the long sides looks a bit odd - you could trim this though.

You might be better to prepare the border first at the exact size you want it to print, and then size the photo in on another layer to fill the middle although that may mean some of the pic will be hidden beneath the frame as, in order to fill the width in this case, the height is likely to go beyond the frame space provided. Because of Santa's chair, your height cropping options look limited though.

Thanks ru, That is the problem i had, with printing this out i haven't tried it yet but i will try resize to you suggestion and give trhat a go for sure.
Yeh seems to be an oversite i hadn't done as i dont print out a lot here at all, just mainly txt and the odd picturem at borderless, but like the boders but always seem to cut off the ends to it. But i will try it and see how i go.
Thanks for your input as yeh had me beet, like i said dont print much. LOl
Thanks again.
John