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i am looking at getting two slave flashes to go with my sb800. is the only advantage of the sb-r200 its ability to be mounted to a macro lens ring? how do these flashes campare in power output?

EDIT: BTW feel free to move this to "Absolute Beginners Questions" if thats where it belongs.

can anyoone help me choose which flash to get

zeb00,
I can say, I'm the first one on this forum who have the full kit R1C1 (SU800 + 2 x SB-R200).

The output of 2 x SB600 is more powerfull than the SB-r200, though the advantage of the SB-R200 is they can be mounted with the supplied step/ macro rings on the lens and can be shot at close as you can to the subjects, you can do it with the SB600 but then other clamp and remote and stand or flash brackets will be required but not accuracy and flexibility as the SB-R200.

If you want to create a ring flash as the old Nikon ring flash, the number of 8 x SB-R200 have to be acquired/ installed, and it becomes a full flash ring.

If you're a serious macro shooter then the R1C1 is for you or the R1 only as consisting of two SB-200 and few number of supplied adapters/ rings.

haven't got much time to play around but will get deeper into this kit in the next few days and ready to show at the coming mini meet (25/3).

thanks birddog.
is it worth getting the su800. or should i just use my sb800 to control them?

Sorry to jump on the thread, but any idea of price for the R1C1 Birdy?
Rel

i am in the process of reseraching the new nikon flash system

I intend to mount the 2 on a RRS flash bracket so i can get interesting portrait shots possibly with 1 flash lighting from the side the other from the top, i may have to buy several flash brackets to do this or get two people to hold them

only reason why i am hesitant is because i have read no feedback on them regarding their application on portrait fashion photographer every piece of info just suggests that they are strictly for macro use

?Birdy can i sue the new nikon flash system for fashion photography, power output is not all that important if your working int he dark

oir should i just fix my broken sb800 and buy another sb800 and end up with two of those instead of investign in the new nikon flash system?

wendellt wrote:oir should i just fix my broken sb800 and buy another sb800 and end up with two of those instead of investign in the new nikon flash system?

or fix you sb-800 and buy two sb600's as if you are using them as slaves only the only difference between them and the sb800 is power output.

zeb00 wrote:thanks birddog.
is it worth getting the su800. or should i just use my sb800 to control them?

What camera do you have?
D70/100/200 has on board commander and you can utilize it.
SU 800 gives you more opportunities to control flash in mulitiple channels, group of slave mode same as totally controlling the the group of flashes.

Blackstormy,
It's around AU$950.00.

Wendell,
R1C1 for fashion photography? NO!
RRS & other flash brackets or SU 800 is YES, but definitely flash brackets and other flashes acting as slave or difference group are required.
Though you should know what you are doing. I don't think you buy several flash brackets and ask your assistants hold them for you.
The SB800 supplied with its stand and it can be mounted on other means independently.

Birdie - how about the R1 package?

(edit - in terms of $?)

Heath Bennett wrote:Birdie - how about the R1 package?

(edit - in terms of $?)

It's about $750.00 shipped.
What are you going to do with it? unless you have a SB800, otherwise it won't fire.

I asked because, to get 8 and make a ring of flashes, you need to buy three R1's and one R1C1.

Four R1's with the SB-800

EDIT - not sure about this, correct me if I am wrong.

A new ring flash requires 8 X SB-r200.
1 x R1C1 + 3 x R1 (6x SB-r200).

Both the Nikon SB29 and SB21 ring flash units do not have a ’ring’ of light. The light is exactly the same as using 2 r200 units. Therefore for macro flash you would in reality require only 2 r200’s.

sirhc55 wrote:Both the Nikon SB29 and SB21 ring flash units do not have a ’ring’ of light. The light is exactly the same as using 2 r200 units. Therefore for macro flash you would in reality require only 2 r200’s.

Chris,
Correct! only need 02 x SB-r200 for macro flash.
But another 6 x SBr200 will create more fun with difference group of flashes and controlled by the SU800.